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fckreddit , to nottheonion in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

Yeah, how dare the public stop us from profitting by destroying our environment?

delirious_owl , (edited )
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Didn’t the UK pioneer these laws in other counties? I mean if a country passes a law to protect its people, then the country has to pay the (usually foreign) company losses for the next 20 years due to the law change?

LibertyLizard , (edited ) to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

Do they actually have a privately owned water supply in the UK?

Lemming421 ,
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The water infrastructure was nationalised decades ago. Each reason has a single private company that maintains the pipes, supply, treatment etc. to everyone in that area. Being private companies, the execs have been getting massive bonuses while dumping raw sewage into public waterways recently. And why? Because as someone else here said: after Brexit, the government got rid of the environmental laws saying they couldn’t. And when you’re a monopoly in your area, are you going to spend money on treating water you don’t have to, or give that money to the shareholders?

It’s a fucking disgrace, a lot of people should go to prison for it and the whole system should be renationalised. But then people in government would lose money, and we can’t have that now, can we?

Blackmist ,

The water infrastructure was nationalised decades ago.

Privatised.

Just another of Milk Snatcher Maggie Thatcher’s little poison pills.

And yes, it should all be renationalised. They haven’t kept up with demand at any point.

Another example is Severn Trent.

They were releasing so much shit into the local nature reserve, that they have actually had to do something about it.

And that something is “building a big pipe so they can dump it directly into the Trent.” They’ve already hacked down a load of trees to make room for it.

Before: https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/d69819e1-e59a-4b60-b073-7b2d05ebc699.png

After: https://feddit.uk/pictrs/image/beff2f4b-62ae-46aa-8e61-8a7164f48bb5.jpeg

LibertyLizard ,

Even to an American where we have tons of privatized utilities this is a bit shocking to me. I haven’t really heard of privately owned water companies before. Although my region is a bit more into public ownership than most I guess. We have private gas supply and private internet but other utilities are public.

Predictably, those two are fucking awful and the other services run just fine. But the next town over has private electricity and it’s a total disaster.

I can see why Thatcher has such a poor reputation now.

billybong ,

Yes. Thatcher sold it off in '89, and since then the private monopolies have accumulated ~£60bn of debts and paid out ~£58bn in dividends. Now they’re arguing with the regulator that they should be allowed to pay out more dividends, increase customer fees by 40% and not have to pay as much in fines for dumping raw sewage because otherwise the companies are “uninvestable” and they won’t be able to raise the money to pay their debts and will collapse.

arin , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

Title sounds like the fucking onion

loutr ,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well, Nestlé argues that people don’t actually have a right to have access to clean water to live, so that doesn’t seem farfetched at all…

tal , (edited ) to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot
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It sounds like kind of an emergency situation, where concurrent breakdowns of infrastructure led to an existing sewage station being overwhelmed. The sewage had to be hauled away, and the argument is over whether dumping it in the ocean was reasonable or whether it was viable to haul it to another sewage station.

But whatever the outcome, it doesn’t sound like it’s something that one would expect to occur on a regular basis. That is, it’s not like, say, a combined sewer that intrinsically needs to dump untreated sewage into waterways when it’s particularly rainy (or, rather, I don’t know whether this particular sewer was a combined sewer, but the specific problem that led to the trucks dumping sewage relied upon breakdowns).

randompasta ,

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that they chose the least costly option.

brbposting , (edited )

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/72aeba94-5f90-42f1-b791-6c2d7b65cdac.png

TIL! Instantly intuitive graphic. Cool. Gross but cool!

Edit: TIL 2: that SVGy png is nearly illegible in dark mode

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/23c08be5-6730-4710-9a29-5972e860fdab.jpeg

SeaJ ,

You know goddamn well how they determined viability was whether it was cheaper. Don’t fall for their bullshit.

some_guy , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

And stop breathing our precious air!

Tabula_stercore , (edited ) to nottheonion in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

Shit hole beach country

tetris11 , to nottheonion in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot
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Tories empowering firms to dump toxic sludge is something that will take decades to recover from. Fuck Johnson and fuck Sunak.

thesporkeffect , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

Holy shit. Is there no law against dumping waste? It seems immaterial whether someone has a ‘right to swim’, that’s not the issue at hand dude

5in1k , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

The water treatment executives have no right to not have pieces of lead lodged in their heads.

Honytawk , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

Even if that were true, that firm still has no right to dump sewage in the sea

jpreston2005 , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

Its added that even during the peak summer holiday season, South West Water and other firms have no duty to meet certain water quality standards.

“woah, woah, we’re a sewage company, we dump sewage. we’re not a clean water company. So what duty could we possibly have to dump sewage in a responsible manner?”

The defence states: “Even during the bathing season, there is no absolute right to swim each day.”

“you also don’t have an absolute right to walk on a public road, that’s where we’ll be dumping sewage next”

South West Water said it is the responsibility of the Government and the EA to ensure clean water, not the water companies that manage the nation’s rivers and coastline.

“Not our job to clean water, you want the Government. We’re just supposed to manage the water near the shore, so we dump all the sewage about a foot past where our jurisdiction stops. See? no problem!”

RIP_Cheems , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot
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Last time I checked, no one owns the ocean.

space , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

Why should the c suites have that right. Dump manure on their beach front property and yachts

OutlierBlue , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

A clean environment should be everyone’s public amenity.

Wilbur025 , to news in Public has no right to swim in sea, claims firm that dumped sewage at bathing spot

In my mind, this story equates to life as a human being on this planet, in general.

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