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sazey , to til in TIL there was a briefly popular social movement in the early 1930s called the "Technocracy Movement." Technocrats proposed replacing politicians and businessmen with scientists and engineers who ha...

Scientists would end up causing a bigger genocide than a despotic politician could ever dream of. King, CEO, a farmer or a baker, whoever is put in charge should have to suffer the consequences of their failures too instead of being allowed to quietly shuffle off to cushy speaking gigs at the expense of wider society. Bring back decimations and obligatory seppuku for politicians, economists, central bankers and other policy makers I say. Even if it proves worse than the current regime in place, at least it will be an entertaining slide to hell.

voodooattack , to til in TIL there was a briefly popular social movement in the early 1930s called the "Technocracy Movement." Technocrats proposed replacing politicians and businessmen with scientists and engineers who ha...

I personally dream of a technocratic demarchy model of governance where decision makers are chosen randomly from a pool of qualified professionals who opt-in for a given field.

SkybreakerEngineer , to til in TIL there was a briefly popular social movement in the early 1930s called the "Technocracy Movement." Technocrats proposed replacing politicians and businessmen with scientists and engineers who ha...

Technocrats are just policy wonks who have more money to give to Patreon

Oblong , to til in TIL that Ozzy Osbourne and Lita Ford once encountered each other in the studio, drank heavily and inadvertently wrote a song together. It ended up being the highest charting US single of either of ...

“Ford was briefly engaged to guitarist Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath”

metasin , to til in TIL there was a briefly popular social movement in the early 1930s called the "Technocracy Movement." Technocrats proposed replacing politicians and businessmen with scientists and engineers who ha...

I read about this before. I do believe there is some merit in it. I work for a company that has traditionally moved engineers into management and I can say it has worked very well. That said, a government is not a corporation and there are human aspects that may be overlooked by some engineers. Or that would at least be some people’s concern.

Yendor ,

Old Boeing (vs New Boeing).

MattTheProgrammer ,
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The worst bosses I've ever had were highly technical people put into those roles because they were perceived to be the best with those skills. There was repeatedly little-to-no regard for their soft skills and working for those people was miserable.

metasin ,

I’m sorry to hear that. The way we have managed it has worked but some of that could be that the engineers that were promoted have always or mostly been able to empathize.

TwilightVulpine ,

The thing about technocracy is that there need to be human concerns and philosophies driving whatever scientifically-driven policy-making it's being done.

Do it wrong and that's how we end up with eugenics. It's incredibly easy to justify horrible stuff using metrics, the essential questions that cannot be overlooked is what metrics ought to be valued and why, and science is not the right method to make the ultimate judgement of what the values of a society ought to be.

metasin ,

Absolutely! The human aspect needs to always be weighed side by side with actual “metrics”.

captainlezbian , to til in TIL there was a briefly popular social movement in the early 1930s called the "Technocracy Movement." Technocrats proposed replacing politicians and businessmen with scientists and engineers who ha...

Please for the love of the gods don’t put engineers in charge of anything but engineering projects. You want someone to decide about bridges, dams, power, etc?We’re your people. You want someone do decide what rights people should have or economic policy? Keep us the fuck away we’re basically mad scientists.

unerds ,

I think there’s a balancing point where people in positions to exercise political will would use data to inform their decisions… I feel like that was probably the objective.

returnNull ,

The point is not putting engineers in charge of everything. Engineers can make policy on infrastructure. Economists can make policy on the economy and sociologists can make policy on social issues. The point is to stop putting people in charge because they belong to party X or are really good friends with person Y.

captainlezbian ,

Ok cool, I’ve seen plenty of people make the argument that stem people should be in charge instead of that we should be in charge of policy we’re experts of

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This would be amazing. Imagine having climate scientists at the EPA...

alternative_factor , to til in TIL of anchorites, medieval Christian ascetics who were walled into a cell ("anchorhold") attached to a church for their entire adult lives. Through small windows, they received sustenance, dispose...
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This is fascinating, I can't imagine living a life so utterly chained to one place.

LegalAction , to til in TIL that the words "lesbian" and "sapphic" both come from this legendary woman named Sappho who lived on the island of Lesbos

She’s not legendary, the way Achilles is. She was a real person.

Toto , to til in TIL of anchorites, medieval Christian ascetics who were walled into a cell ("anchorhold") attached to a church for their entire adult lives. Through small windows, they received sustenance, dispose...

Replace the church with the moms and these are modern day gamers

Darc ,

😂

MagosInformaticus , to til in TIL the design of the guillotine was intended to make capital punishment more reliable and less painful in accordance with new Enlightenment ideas of human rights.

Most execution methods are, and it never works out as clean and civilized and painless as is claimed. Miscarriages of justice also happen. I’m glad my jurisdiction doesn’t use death penalties any more, and can only hope humanity manages to consign the idea to history someday.

ArugulaZ , to til in TIL the design of the guillotine was intended to make capital punishment more reliable and less painful in accordance with new Enlightenment ideas of human rights.

It makes for a faster, more efficient execution. This was not what its creator had intended... he just wanted to take executioners too drunk to feel guilt or aim precisely out of the equation. I think he went to his grave regretting his invention, as it was so frequently used during the French Revolution that dogs and cats would lap up the spilled blood.

HeartyBeast , to til in TIL that the BBC had no archival policy until 1978, and many of its old broadcasts were only aired live. A number of BBC broadcasts are lost, including a show featuring a then-unknown Bob Dylan; 97...
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The tapes were huge, expensive and storage was limited. The tapes tended to get reused.

lapislazuli , (edited ) to til in TIL that the BBC had no archival policy until 1978, and many of its old broadcasts were only aired live. A number of BBC broadcasts are lost, including a show featuring a then-unknown Bob Dylan; 97...

There are similar examples from other countries as well. TV was seen as a means for making live broadcasts, so back-ups weren’t made and tapes got recorded over. Source: a course on TV history I took.

Olap , to til in TIL that the BBC had no archival policy until 1978, and many of its old broadcasts were only aired live. A number of BBC broadcasts are lost, including a show featuring a then-unknown Bob Dylan; 97...

Dad’s Army lost three episodes also. All were refilmed in 2018/2019 and very faithful - highly recommended

Saganastic , (edited ) to til in TIL the design of the guillotine was intended to make capital punishment more reliable and less painful in accordance with new Enlightenment ideas of human rights.

I wouldn't be surprised if the botched execution of Mary Queen of Scots was the motivation for the guillotine: https://allthatsinteresting.com/mary-queen-of-scots-execution

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