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taaz ,

I am currently in the market for a new mobile phone. The current’s one battery is basically dead and because of security patches now being about 2 years old I have to replace it whole instead of just getting the battery replaced again.

Pixel with GrapheneOS has been my number one choice for some time but…

  1. there is no (privacy friendly & legal) replacement for Google Play Protect. My banking app won’t work without it as well as one other app I kind of need too.
  2. I am also just too used to having a phone in the 250-300 EUR range in the sense that I don’t have to care about it that much.
    It’s a “consumable” product for me. Loosing/drowning it is not a big deal, where drowning 800 euros is just hard to justify no matter how much money I make.

I will probably just get the OnePlus Nord 4 instead because of their pledge to do 6 years of updates.

NoDignity ,

I’m not sure about over in Europe but around here the trick to an affordable Pixel is to just buy last years model since you can usually find them lightly used or even new in the $300 - $400 range and updates are only incremental anyway and since they get 7 years of updates now it should be good for quite a while.

For google play protect yeah thats a bummer, I just use my banks website but I don’t know if European banks allow that.

Personally though I love Graphene OS it turned my phone from a device I hated due to anxitey I feel around corporate surveillance into a device I genuinely like again.

Staubsaugernasenmann ,

i can especially relate to the last part, it’s so freeing to feel in control of my phone!

sugartits ,

Just buy an older supported device if grapheneos is important to you. Something like a 6 pro would be fine.

EngineerGaming ,
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7a was the sweet spot for me, even if $300 is frankly a lot by my measure. But I think it was a worthy investment for me.

Would definitely not get a pro since the 7a is already on the edge of what I can use with one hand. Same for 7 but downplayed, I didn’t opt for this one because it has a glass back.

NoDignity ,

To anyone reading this a 6 is a great pick but its worth knowing that the 7 year update promise only began with the pixel 8 so if you buy a 6 in 2024 it probably only has about 2 years of updates left. However they are only like $150 used I think so the value is probably there even if you only get 2 years of use out of it.

pandapoo ,

Buy used, and/or buy an “a” model.

GrapheneOS is clearly the ideal ROM/OS, but alternatively there is another privacy and security centric ROM that supports a lot more devices, with the trade-off being it’s not GrapheneOS.

Check out DivestOS and it’s supported device list to see if that’s a better fit for you. It’s from the same developer as the Mulch and Mull browser forks.

As far SafetyNet/Play Project and other anticonsumer “security attestation” features, some bank apps will work fine, what others won’t.

Does their website provide PWA support?

rolling_resistance ,
  1. All of my banking apps work, I have 6 of them.
  2. You can buy an older Pixel, 5 or 6. They’re still great.
rxbudian ,

GrapheOS now officially supports…

[please… something other than Pixel…]

Pixel 9

Staubsaugernasenmann ,

The problem is that (as far as i know) only pixels fulfill their security requirements, for example that the bootloader is not only unlockable but also lockable. But I also would like to have more devices supporting it

unexposedhazard ,

Fairphones should be supported imo. CalyxOS relocks the bootloader and they supported the FP5 right after launch.

huginn ,

Fairphone should sell phones outside of Europe

Unfortunately neither of us get what we want

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