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DrunkenPirate ,

That is a bit how humans always explained human experiences - by explaining it through how modern technology works.

Years ago it were mechanical mechanisms that explained how we think. Before that it was a pinhole camera. Today it is information technology.

But that‘s not how humans think, interact, and live in the world. You’re model doesn’t explain why some people are boring and some are meszmerising. Some spoken words can resonate with your body and emotion (think of songs) some not. Some people such as Italians speak with hands and gestures as well and need it to understand the other.

That‘s why for me web calls are okay for just some information sharing but when it comes to even more intense and effective exchange, humans have to be in one room - to be in wave.

With just showing an idea, the problem is that humans aren’t in your head and see the world through the windows of the eyes (pinhole camera concept). Humans interact and move and see the world. That’s btw one of the breakthroughs in robotics - moving robots can much better interact with the world.

ahto ,

There’s also the difference between what you think the words you say mean and what they understand from your words.

acosmichippo ,
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i think you misunderstood OP.

ahto ,

I don’t think so, my point was that there’s not only uncertainty in converting the idea to language and language back to an idea, but there’s also uncertainty when transferring language from one person to another.

souperk ,
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That’s compatible with information theory. You have a piece of information, the moment you encode it (turn your idea into words) that piece of information is transposed to a little different piece of information, then the channel of transportation adds a bit of noise (depends on the environment, most often literal background noise), and then the receiver decodes the to a different piece of information (turn your words into an idea of their own).

Understanding this concept is an important communication skill. Information theory gives a bunch of tools to minimize the difference between the idea in your head and the perception of the idea by your peer.

  • You can add redundancy, aka say the same thing twice in a slightly different way.
  • Use questions to validate your understanding.
  • Have your peer use their own words.
  • Use a different encoding, aka draw a picture, a diagram, or use gestures instead of using language to communicate
Nurse_Robot ,

Hence why Dennis pulls out a giant paper whiteboard to explain his D.E.N.N.I.S. system

HoodsOwn ,

This is why it’s critical for us to predefine thematically relevant words and phrases we intend or assume to be relievent to important discussion. Language is an imperfect tool. This is a common communication factor considered for philosophical discussion that I think is undervalued in day to day discourse.

abbadon420 ,

That’s why invented stupid shit like powerpoint and now the world is dieing

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