The key word in this post is “evidence”. If the Democrats came with only unfounded assertions, they should rightfully be laughed at and dismissed like the Republicans were in 2020.
“Just”? Tit for tat is not “just”, revenge is not “just”. Truth and consequences are just. If he actually didn’t win the election and it was truly fraud and cheating that got him the win, then yes, it would be just to bring that truth to light and execute the consequences of that truth. If he won fair and square, pretending like he didn’t is not just simply because he did it before.
Perhaps, but with all of the voter suppression and election rigging that has been done by the Republicans, can you really say he won “fair and square” at this point?
I mean, fuck Trump, he’s obviously authoritarian… but Democrats are literally currently financing and arming a genocide.
Also, if they cared about justice, why do they keep letting Merrick Garland drag his fucking heels, dithering and waffling around because he doesn’t want to appear political… all while he looks political by not putting the screws to criminal enterprise and treating Trump with kid gloves?
It’s been a choice to not replace Garland with someone more aggressive.
To be fair, that genocide has been funded by every politician before them on both sides for generations. Israel has been sacred in America, since WW2 and then AIPAC. That doesn’t make it right, but that’s why, and it’s not going to change in one election.
Also, I’m not sure that Garland doesn’t want to appear political as much as they want the process to appear fair. This isn’t a witch hunt, they need to follow the facts and have a solid case that they can win in a court system that was made highly biased by the very person they are prosecuting. They need to win.
It kind of feels really pathetic that if we don’t win “taking the high road” in a corrupt system that is biased and unfair to begin with, that we have to let fascism just win?
Our supreme court has been long hijacked and corrupted, and if we don’t take as long as humanly possible with the court cases, giving Trump every opportunity a normal citizen would not receive, up to and including taking so long that he could win the election, take control of the DOJ, pardon himself and his co-conspirators, and then begin his vision of revenge on everyone who wronged him… we’d be letting them win because we didn’t take long enough to prove in their sham courts that they were criminals?
Make it make fucking sense, man. You’re arguing for rolling over for fascists to appear apolitical and get a “rock solid” case, it’s a joke.
Trump shouldn’t be on any fucking ballots he should be in jail for some of the highest crimes you can commit against the American government. It’s not even a question. Stop defending this worthless shit.
He had top secret documents in his bathroom dude, and he was fucking belligerent about not wanting to return them, first President in history to do that, and Cannon dropped the fucking case for him.
This whole “oh but if they win in the courts” is just pussyfooting and saying you’ll let the brownshirts roll over us because that’s easier than admitting the courts have been fucking captured by right wing extremists. “But it’s legal, Trump won in court!” Yeah, that’s fascism’s legalism phase.
So your idea is to just abandon the court system and have him be locked in Gitmo or something? And that’s not fascism?
You’re just mad because you think you could do it better, but instead you’re nothing. Run for office, or get a law degree and become AG yourself, otherwise try and trust the parts of the system that are left standing.
From an outsider’s perspective, although the Republicans are clearly the most corrupt of the two parties, the Democrats are far from being the good guys.
There’s plenty of evidence to suggest that the Democrat politicians don’t actually care about truth and justice either, they’re just less bad than the Republicans are.
Tldr: vote Democrat, but don’t kid yourself. Vote because they are the least worst option.
vote Democrat, but don’t kid yourself. Vote because they are the least worst option.
Especially at the state level. I know not everywhere has it so good, but my city and state level democrats are for the most part pretty awesome. I have way more issues with my federal representatives, who are democrat, but the scummy corporate kind.
Local elections have reverberations and are one of the best ways to attempt to implement something other than first-past-the-post voting, like ranked choice. (This is not an endorsement of ranked choice specifically) Getting out of our current voting system setup is the first step to weakening both traditionally entrenched parties. Local democrats are way more likely to go for changing the voting system, while local republicans are more likely to… try to overrule the will of the people.