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WhatIsThePointAnyway ,

Bitchy oligarch isn’t above the law everywhere like he wishes. Hope this helps with his downfall.

TropicalDingdong ,

Well good for them.

silence7 ,

The NYT really does take Musk at his word even when he’s got a real history of banning accounts for saying true-but-left-wing things.

jonne ,

That’s probably the worst part of the current press environment. If someone has a history of lying, that does not weigh on how their words are reported.

someguy3 ,

Lololol.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

There is only one (non-standard) emoji to convey my emotion on the subject

kekw

someguy3 ,

Oh make the video with new subtitles.

Beaver ,
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

Brazil will thrive after this decision

Reverendender ,

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/02f6562f-ff24-4751-a92f-bed589c2c010.gif

Wrench ,

Fuck Musk and everything, but Xitter has traditionally been a very powerful tool for the masses in impoverished countries to get the word out.

I know Brazil isn’t exactly a 3rd world country, but it’s not exactly the most stable of governments, either. They just recently had a Jan 6th kind of coup attempt when bolsonaros lost.

I hesitate to consider this a net good, despite hating Musk.

silence7 ,

There has been a huge spike in BlueSky use, and Lula is now active there.

stonerboner ,

The usefulness of Twitter ended when Musk took over. This is absolutely a new positive thing, as it’s better to use alternatives as opposed to the fascist website. There are lots of communication alternatives available, so it’s not like people won’t have a way to communicate.

Wrench ,

The point of guerilla style social media activism that exposes oppression, is to reach as many eyes as possible.

Are there alternatives? Sure. But do they reach anywhere near the same size of an audience? Unless I’m extremely out of touch (I do not consume that kind of social media directly), then it’s not even remotely close.

Maybe BlueSky is bigger than I think it is, but I rarely ever hear about it outside of very niche circles (like lemmy).

My point stands. Despite all the mishandling of Xitter, it’s still a powerful tool to get grassroots news out for things like protests, oppression. The platform is certainly worse than it was before Musk, but it’s still a decent tool for this specific usecase.

TachyonTele ,

You use a different network tool after the last one is compromised. Usefulness matters now and in the future, not in the past.

Wrench ,

Ok. Agreed.

But that doesn’t change the fact that Xitter is still number 1 by a large margin, unless I’m mistaken. And since no one here even seems to be disputing that, it seems we agree on that point.

So it’s the other point that seems to be what is controversial. That, even with all the bad shit Musk has done - maliciously gaming the algorithm so these things won’t rise naturally like they did before, actively banning “woke” accounts, etc.

Even with all these bad changes, Xitter is still the best way to get your crisis message to the masses, especially outside your country.

You can argue about idealistic things like “it won’t change until people are forced to look elsewhere”, but that’s not a luxury that people in crisis have.

And that’s exactly why I think this is more negative than positive. It takes away the most powerful tool available at getting your reality out of a war zone, out of dictator controlled media bubbles, etc, so that outside observers can get a glimpse at what’s really going on.

And until you have a real contender for a replacement that’s gaining massive traction, “not perfect” is a luxury of armchair activists.

TachyonTele ,

When the need arises people will use whatever works best for their purposes. I doubt it will be Twitter again, but who knows.
The good thing about uprisings is you you can’t predict how it’ll spring up. That’s part of what makes them successful.

You’re better off focusing on a different platform though.

stonerboner ,

Guerrilla style social media activism suffers when the platform in question actively bans for reporting facts or algorithmically hides progressive voices and trends.

It also benefits the very fascists we are attempting to address by driving engagement on their platform. But no group at this time can be sure that they won’t be banned, (or worse, get Twat by Elon and end up receiving death threats) tomorrow. It’s also very risky to rely on such a platform.

But more pragmatically, these groups won’t stop organizing. The general public will also be migrating from Deadbirdsite.They’ll all use the next best tool and still persist, so there’s no real disadvantage there. If the effort can’t exist outside of Twitter, it isn’t really trying.

chalupapocalypse ,

It’s almost as if it was the point all along

stoly ,

You once could say the same about Facebook. Both it and X have been used to coordinate genocides.

RunawayFixer ,

That was all before Musk. Since musk took over, twitter gives in to all demands for censorship by governments. It went from about 50% to basically 100%. I expect that the information of users isn’t safe either.

aljazeera.com/…/twitter-fulfilling-more-governmen…

Draghetta ,

What is this X

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
@Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca avatar

A crappy porn site I think.

Ragnarok314159 ,

Pussy in bio!

harrys_balzac ,

If you bought Twitter off Temu

nova_ad_vitum ,

I think it’s what we call Xitter.

Prandom_returns ,

Right-wing-nutjob-infested-and-controlled social network.

breakfastmtn ,
@breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca avatar

In a highly unusual move, Justice Moraes also said that any person in Brazil who tried to still use X via common privacy software called a virtual private network, or VPN, could be fined nearly $9,000 a day.

Wild stuff.

figaro ,

… Would they know, if it’s via a VPN?

Beaver ,
@Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

Keep holding this aristocrat accountable folks

Dagnet ,

I’m brazillian and its not quite blocked yet, can access it as of this moment. It will take some time until all internet providers block twitter

CaptainSpaceman ,

Can you tell us more about the motivations? Seems political more than anything specific musk is doing now that he wasnt doing before.

Im happy to see X go down in flames, but I also dont want citizens silenced if fascism is creeping in.

Dagnet ,

That judge claims the people he wants banned from the platform are anti democracy and what not, but musk refused to comply. Its a complicated subject and my opinion is just that, my own opinion. That judge (most of them in fact) believe themselves to be all mighty, they interpret the law as they see fit and use their supreme court orders to do as they wish, when their role should be only to act as the highest instance of law in the country. Just today he also froze starlink’s account in the country to charge fines from the twitter issue, that is not exactly the correct way to go about it, he is over stepping his powers.

To be short: fuck Elon but the supreme court here is also crap and needs a reform.

BakerBagel ,

Idk. O think most people would say it os reasonable for a sex offender to be forbidden from being within 300 ft of a school zone. I would say that being banned from online forums like Twitter or Facebook is fair game for someone who lead an insurrection against their government. The punishment for that was a rope around the neck in most places until recently.

Dagnet ,

My problem isnt with the punishment, never was. My problem is how these judges have been dishing their own idea of justice and trampling over all other powers in a democracy.

ShinkanTrain ,

Mostly because of how Xitter refused to block accounts accounts related to an insurrection at the Capitol, then ignored court orders.

istanbullu ,

Just out of curiosity: how is the blocking usually implemented? Do they block it via DNS, or is it more sophisticated?

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

And nothing of value was lost.

magnetosphere ,
@magnetosphere@fedia.io avatar

This is how you deal with people like him. After trying to treat them fairly, act with strength and authority. Hit them in the wallet whenever possible.

DogPeePoo ,

Twitter is a cesspool of racism and the preferred platform for Nazis

renrenPDX ,

In before he tells countries who block Xitter to go fk themselves.

Omniraptor ,

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/d45fafc0-69f3-49e0-86c8-c5da55ae7226.jpegx.com/nuclear_goth/status/1829143967067213827

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