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LadyAutumn , (edited ) in Ohio, Michigan Republicans In Released Audio: "Endgame" Is To Ban Trans Care "For Everyone"
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Even the usage of the term “endgame” implies an almost sportsman like perspective on the legal battle for transgender rights, devoid of any acknowledgment that transgender people have humanity and that their actions will have dire consequences for real people. A literal battle plan for how to dispose of us. No vague language, no hand waving away accusations of genocidal intent. Point blank, openly asking, “How do we get rid of trans people for good?”

They refuse to acknowledge that trans people, that any trans person, benefits from acceptance and support and freedom to be themselves. In their ideal world, first they’ll deny our healthcare, deny our legal rights and protections from violence and discrimination, they’ll replace mental health care facilities with religious conversion therapy camps, and when all is said and done and trans people continue to exist in any shape or form they’ll resort to incarceration and disposal. They’ll make laws enforcing dress codes based on assigned gender and make it illegal to change your name to one not approved for your assigned sex. This is what they’ve been saying they want for years. If they could do this, they would without a second thought.

We’re the basis of the entirety of the post pandemic Christian conservatism movement. None of these people would even have jobs without us to scream about during the two minutes hate.

AngryCommieKender ,

The Nazis started with Transexuals and Homosexuals. The Jewish people just outnumbered the Transexuals and Homosexuals by several factors.

Oh, and the homeless were the third group, again outnumbered by a couple factors by Jewish people.

5714 ,

Important why the reference is valid as well, is that endgame is rhetorically near ‘Endlösung’ (ultimate solution) and ‘Endsieg’ (ultimate victory), meaning complete genocide as ‘solution’ to ‘the problem of the jews (existence)’ ( ‘Judenfrage’ ) and world domination as solution to the growing extremes of the Second World War.

Please don’t use ‘Endlösung’, ‘Endsieg’ and ‘Judenfrage’ in casual speech.

BreakDecks ,

Americans don’t like talking about how Nazis came to power. We literally remove the first line from Martin Niemöller’s “First they came for” quote from school textbooks because it sympathizes with Socialism.

dustyData ,

Neither they like to talk how a lot of Nazi discourse was based on American eugenics and the logistics of the holocaust were templated and inspired by the American genocide of Native American Indigenous people. In particular the use of concentration camps. Which the Americans copied and perfected during WW2 to imprison Japanese-American citizens.

iquanyin ,
@iquanyin@lemmy.world avatar

what is the first line? i may not know.

feedum_sneedson ,

Communists

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Even the usage of the term “endgame” implies an almost sportsman like perspective on the legal battle for transgender rights

It could be a movie reference tho. You know that movie where someone with all the power snapped his fingers and a bunch of people just disappeared?

At any rate it’s never good to hear about fascists discussing plans that have an endgame.

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Huh wonder how the movie got the name.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

From a comic book?

underisk , (edited ) in “I Have Lost Everything”: In Federal Court, Palestinians Accuse Biden of Complicity in Genocide
@underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

Every time someone tells you how little power a president has to realize his political objectives I want you to think about how eager, steadfast, and unilateral Biden has been in assisting a foreign country in the waging of a genocidal war. Then imagine he put that kind of political will behind literally anything positive.

IndustryStandard OP , (edited )

It’s weird to me that it’s so unclear what the president actually can and can’t do. Before Trump took his presidential powers for a test drive everyone said it was impossible for a president to do those things. It seems like Biden has found out how to bypass Congress too, but not for the noble purposes we were hoping for.

FlashMobOfOne ,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

If Trump’s presidency was good for anything, it was good for giving us innumerable examples of why it’s so dumb to pretend that Democrats were powerless when they had Congress and the presidency for two years.

MotoAsh ,

It should be a lesson: Democrats CHOOSE to not try. “Enlightened Centrism” is a brain disease fundamentally incapable of standing up to fascism.

WanderingVentra ,

Well there was lots of times Trump was stopped, too. His Muslim ban was struck down by courts, his wall or trying tk destroy health care would sometimes be slowed in Congress, or his administration would try to slow down his insane impulses. That’s a large part of why they have that new plan to basically replace a ton of the bureaucrats with us men instead of law abiding citizens.

TigrisMorte ,

You are going to "love" the alternative you are seething to bring about.

Doorbook ,

Vote A he will save you from B is not working. Because when A ignore you completely that mean both A and B are bad and voting for A is only going to help A groups not you. A is killing you family and B is killing your family so why you care to vote for A if the end result is the same.

Let A and B decide among themselves what they want, and take your energy and voice to better places instead of aiding one against the other.

TigrisMorte ,

False bullshit remains false.

FlashMobOfOne ,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

Like, how exactly?

Especially when the topic is Israeli genocide, on which both parties have the exact same position?

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not true. One party wants to defend Israel because it is the only hope for lasting human rights and democratic values in the entire region. One party wants Israel to start a hot war with Iran so it has an excuse to nuke the largest Arab state sponsor of Islamicism and Islamic extremism.

FlashMobOfOne ,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

What you’re saying is untrue.

The parties say two different things. They do exactly the same things with the same results.

And I’m about 30 years past giving parties credit for saying good things and doing bad things.

MotoAsh ,

You’re correct in sentiment, but good luck explaining how the lesser of two evils is still evil whilst claiming the result is the same. You’re conflating a lot of topics by bringing in Israel’s actions. The result is exactly the same because there is a third actor doing it.

Even when it’s strictly things state side, it’s only “exactly the same” if the bar is, “it won’t get completely fixed”, because there is a HUGE difference between Republican plans and Democrat plans. Even if the Dems are still barely offering crumbs, it’s more crumbs than a kick in the teeth.

go_go_gadget ,

No they’re both kicks in the teeth. Maybe one with a steel toed boot and the other with a tennis shoe but… it’s still a kick to the teeth.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

Bruh... You still going on about the human rights nonsense? You do realize that Israel is, putting it lightly, an Apartheid state right?

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

No I don’t realize that at all.

Do you realize Palestinians have had 100 years to reject violent religious extremism, suicide bombings, human shields, and the organized and intentional targeting of civilians, and in that 100 years such ideological violence is more popular than ever?

WanderingVentra , (edited )

Claiming Palestinians have religious extremism while defending Israel, an apartheid ethnostate that has different courts depending on your religion and is doing a genocide for an old book, is hilarious. And if you don’t know that Israel is an apartheid state, something claimed by Amnesty, international, Human Rights Watch, and multiple other NGO’s and countries, then I’m not sure you’re educated enough on this issue.

First of all, none of those things have been happening for hundred years. Everyone got along in that area until Zionism took hold and it became obvious the British and French were going to renege on their deal to the Palestinians in order to carve out a bunch of their land to give to foreigners without giving them a state. People they had rejected to this land to avoid dealing with their own antisemitism. The same people that had been forming terrorist groups to take over more territory and achieve their dream of their own state at the cost of wiping out the local people living there. The first Intifada wasn’t until the late 1980’s, and Hamas wasn’t until around then. They won the election in Gaza because diplomacy and non violent resistance hadn’t been working for 20-40 years.

Second, all those things Israel has been doing more of and worse. Except instead of suicide bombings, it’s been just regular bombings. And even then, there hasn’t been suicide bombings for like 20 years. Israel kills way more civilians and claims human shields just as an excuse to keep doing it, which is the dumbest excuse in the world to kill a bunch of civilians. It’s like entering a hostage situation and just mowing down everyone. No police force has done that (except for maybe Israel’s). Unless you think they mean physical human shields, which I’ve rarely seen any evidence of that being mass practiced.

Most Palestinian resistance has been peaceful, and even peaceful resistance has been denigrated. People lose jobs for supporting BDS and people have lost their legs for doing the Great March of Return. They still lose West Bank settlements, still have no water, not enough food, no sovereignty or control over power, massive unemployment, and no way to fix it because Israel occupies them. Israel has promised they’d start working on a two state solution within 5 years for the last 20 years and finally gave up that farce with Bibi’s comments recently. Of course Hamas sucks, but what else do you expect? What would you have them do? Just sit down and die?

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

I’d have the Palestinians people deal with their shit, violently smash Hamas and charge them with crimes against humanity.

Fat chance that’ll happen, Hamas is more popular than ever., had massive support for October 7.

S_204 ,

That you’re claiming everyone got along in the region prior to Zionism demonstrates a profound lack of understanding of the history of the region. That’s simply not true, there’s hundreds of years of evidence showing that’s not accurate at all.

Lun0tic ,

Ummm…what did I just read? Like a poorly written Metal Gear Solid translation with a mega ineffective solution.

S_204 ,

I’m not American, but I’m kind of starting to hope Biden doesn’t win. Just so that these foolish people get what they deserve. The level of stupidity is pouring out right now is just astonishing.

go_go_gadget ,

Hey, “stupid” person here. I’m 100% fine with literally whatever you want to call me. But we were very clear during the 2020 primaries we didn’t want Biden and we reluctantly voted for him in the 2020 general to give him a chance. We made it as clear as possible to him and everyone around us that he was on thin ice.

So, sure, call us stupid or whatever. But how stupid do you all have to believe we were bluffing twice?

S_204 ,

Yes, Americans have shown themselves to be stupid beyond belief. You’re going to vote for Biden again, your option of shooting yourself in the face isn’t a better option but as I’m not American, I’m starting to hope y’all do exactly that so you get what you deserve.

underisk ,
@underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

The alternative I’m seething to bring about is not on a ballot.

TigrisMorte ,

Exactly. Glad you caught up.

go_go_gadget ,

When will you? Stop electing procorporate trash in the primaries. You think we’re bluffing?

TigrisMorte ,

When their is a viable alternative option. As I am not a member of any political party, I am not able to Vote in the Primary.
And No, I think you are poorly informed fools.

go_go_gadget , (edited )

When their is a viable alternative option.

The Boomers and the DNC will make sure there never is one. You want change? They’re your biggest obstacle.

No, I think you are poorly informed fools

Buddy that’s irrelevant. If you need our votes so you’ve gotta listen to our demands. You, the DNC, the Boomers are free to ignore us but then you will lose the general election. Make a choice.

FenrirIII ,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not just any foreign country. It’s Israel. There’s a shit ton of policy, diplomacy, geographic interests, and money involved. There is literally no president in recent history that would act much differently. The majority of Congress is on board with this.

shadearg , (edited )
@shadearg@lemmy.world avatar

Listen to who is not criticising Biden.

This is a both-sides issue.

Edit: The Republican House could bring immediate legitimate and bipartisan articles of impeachment against Biden for 1) sidestepping Congress to arm Israel and 2) abuse of power to foment genocide.

underisk ,
@underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

If the majority of congress is on board, then why repeatedly circumvent them and put himself as the sole person responsible for these wildly unpopular actions during his reelection campaign?

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Because he represents the country?

Spending is controlled by Congress. Foreign policy is largely handled by the President, though spending and authorization of the use of force has to be approved by congress.

Also if he’s using it in his campaign why do you think it’s unpopular? Do you believe they don’t do polling?

You may be in one of those internet information silos and not have a good understanding of what’s happening. Hamas committed genocide. People are against genocide. A lot of people are attempting to “both sides” this and claim “uhhh… Israel genocide too” but that’s insane and only makes the Pro-Palestine movement look like lunatics. People cosplay as Hamas members at Palestine marches, literally cosplaying as people that committed genocide. Again, looks like lunatics. Attacks on synagogues, and jewish businesses. The dog whistles “from the river to the sea.” sound an awful lot like blood and soil. Trying to discredit a democracy. Violent movent, misogynistic and homophobic leadership, anti-democracy, genocide… looks an awful lot like a fascist movement.

The best argument in support of Israel is a five minute conversation with a pro-palestine activist. There’s too much hatred in that movement, and given the inability of that movement to separate itself from Hamas, it seems Hamas is the source of all of this hatred on display is the group Israel is currently fighting against. Send them the needed weapons to eliminate the blight on humanity that is Hamas.

Once it’s done the children on the internet claiming to be socialists while supporting a fascist organization lead by billionaires in Qatar and a genocidal maniac in an underground lair in what’s left of Gaza will soon forget and move on to the next thing their hormones have them outraged over. The tankie socialist kids don’t vote anyway, (or if they do it’s for some bullshit third party) so why bother trying to please people whose heads are so full of ideological bullshit and propaganda originating from Iran they are completely incapable of even seeing what they look like to people outside of their information silo?

underisk ,
@underisk@lemmy.ml avatar

Do you get hard off of typing all this shit to say you’re a slavering little pervert for genocide?

massive_bereavement , in Measles is “growing global threat,” CDC tells doctors in alert message
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

No, stupidity is a growing global threat. Measles is just riding shotgun.

RestrictedAccount ,

Well put

themeatbridge ,

I don’t disagree with you, but I’m going to take it a step further and say selfishness is the root cause. It’s not that people are too stupid to understand, it’s that they are too selfish to care to learn. You could call that a form of stupidity, but there are plenty of intelligent, educated people who fully understand the validity of the threat and still don’t give a fuck because they don’t think it personally affects them.

Daxtron2 ,

You can be smart in one area and brain dead dumb in others. I would absolutely call it both selfishness and stupidity.

themeatbridge ,

Sure, but a stupid person can act in a way that isn’t selfish and help other people. A selfish person who is willing to harm others for personal gain, whether smart or stupid, is a problem for society. Selfish stupid people are really the worst because they will cut the branch we’re sharing without realizing that they have just as much to lose.

DigitalTraveler42 ,

I’d say to specify the type of selfishness as entitlement.

themeatbridge ,

I call it conservativism, which is just narcissism wrapped in a flag.

anarchy79 , in The world will have its first trillionaire within a decade, but poverty won't be eradicated for another 229 years, report finds
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Poverty will never be eradicated, what kind of nonsense is that? The poverty is a feature of capitalism, not a bug.

JCreazy ,

So eliminate capitalism=eliminate poverty

Kbobabob ,

Easy peasy

cabron_offsets , in Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who was once seen as the biggest threat to Trump's 2024 White House bid, is suspending his presidential campaign

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TropicalDingdong ,

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originalucifer , in A Colorado town's newspapers were stolen after a story about rape charges at the police chief's house
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this is tooo tasty. did someone not realize what happens when you try and hide 'stories'. and in Print?!?! wtf??

streeeiisaaand where are you
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PugJesus , in Entire Edition Of Newspapers Stolen On Day It Publishes Story About Rape At Police Chief’s Home
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

"Oh no. I wonder who could have done this. Unfortunately, we have to close the case for lack of evidence." - Ouray County police department

Sweetpeaches69 , in Texas refuses to comply with Biden administration's cease-and-desist letter about border access

What’s the issue? Get a ton of federal agents, march on the border, arrest all obstructing Texas shitheads and beat them down with the book. Make examples out of them.

lolcatnip ,

That will likely result in bloodshed. I think it’s inevitable at this point unless Biden decides to completely roll over.

bradorsomething ,

We already handled the “what are you going to do if we don’t follow the law” question here once, they must have just taken that part out of their history books.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m fine with bloodshed. SWAT the fuckers in their beds.

KevonLooney ,

There’s not going to be any bloodshed. Texas National Guard soldiers want to go home safely every night, just like everyone else. I think the main issue is the border patrol doesn’t want a conflict.

Biden could nationalize the Texas Guard troops at the fence. Then give them a direct order to open the gate. If they don’t, dishonorable discharge for disobeying a direct order from the President. No pension, no nothing. They will open the gate.

NotMyOldRedditName , (edited )

What happens after that? Does he de-nationalize them once the issue is sorted, or has Texas now lost full control permanently?

edit: I seem to have hit some nerve with a legitimate question? 7 downvotes??? I don’t know how biden nationalizing the state guard works and what happens after.

wanderingmagus ,

Same policy as with Southern states after the Civil War.

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@startrek.website avatar

I would argue that Texas has already done enough to be stripped of control permanently.

stoly ,

The reason people are downvoting you is because your question is “So what does Biden do with his authority after exercising his authority? Not exercise it more or exercise it forever?”

You think you have a gotcha, but really you just sound ignorant and angry.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

WTF? There’s no gotcha there.

I seriously have no idea what happens after he does it. There’s 0 anger in my question just trying to understand what it actually means.

It solves the immediate problem, but whats the aftermath.

Edit: And please do tell what kind of options beside eventually giving control back, or keeping control exist? I seriously don’t know.

stoly ,

The National Guard is the “militia” that you hear about in the Constitution and such. Basically militias were brought up during the Revolutionary War and are what actually fought most of the battles. Those people wanted to ensure that militias would always be a thing so that in the future, oppression wouldn’t occur.

In normal times, a governor is the head of a militia. But ultimately, the militias are part of the US military and always under the president. There are going to be laws and situations that Congress has spelled out over the years that say when this can or cannot happen, for how long it can last, etc.

In brief: during an emergency, the president or governor calls up the reservists. Think natural disasters and such. When the emergency is over, they go back home and back to their normal jobs.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

This doesn’t seem the same though?

In this case it’s the state national guard interfering with federal business. They themselves are the emergency.

If he nationalizes them to resolve the situation (letting the border guard patrol the area) the moment he ends his control, Texas would just start up the interference again?

Is the outcome that he nationalizes it, and they remain under his control until a federal court orders Texas to comply, at which point he returns control to Texas?

stoly ,

You’d surely have a court order by that point preventing it from happening again. Courts can bring in marshals I’d think.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

Ah, that makes sense then. I think the marshals as the last step if needed helps close the loop. Thanks!

ryathal ,

The same thing happens as with desegregation. The national guard eventually goes home as the operation is considered complete. Sure the governor could reactivate them and try to understand everything, but that’s not really realistic.

stoly ,

Read the wiki article on the standoff in Waco, TX, which happened under Clinton. It would be a larger version of that.

Reverendender , in Police chief fired after twice asking captain’s wife for nude photos on Snapchat
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If he had shot her…no problemo. Nude photos though? That’s where we draw the line.

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    jaybone , in 100% fruit juice associated with weight gain in children and adults, study finds

    Haven’t they known this for decades now?

    Fruit juice is all the sugar in fruit but without any of the fiber.

    MaxVoltage ,
    @MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

    For sure every doctor alwayd says BOOF it or Lose it

    DrMango ,

    Yes. Just got back from the pediatrician and the take home handout said (again) not to feed your kid juice as there’s little to no nutritional value and a butt load of sugar

    linearchaos ,
    @linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, the US has an education problem. They kind of tell kids about this in school these days but for a bunch of years fruit was just plain sold as good for you. Kids parents were raised going oh don’t drink that Fanta here drink this apple juice. When they’re far too close to nutritional value for it to matter.

    It’s another thing they could put a label on might help a few people, it’s really effing hard to put a health food label on everything that’s not shit though

    AA5B ,

    I do wonder if there was some truth to that, though. When I was growing up, I do remember being told fruit juice is healthy, however there was also less weight problem and there was much less availability of fresh fruits

    linearchaos ,
    @linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

    We’ve also been selectively breeding fruit for years to have more sugar.

    MonkderZweite ,

    but for a bunch of years fruit juice was just plain sold as good for you.

    linearchaos ,
    @linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

    Fruit is not just blanket good for you. Even with the fiber, it’s something you only want in moderation.

    Take an average medium apple. that’s 19 carbs. 16 grams of sugar. it has negligible potassium and a 7% of your RDA for Vitamin C.

    3g of dietary fiber isn’t even all that much. They’re mostly water.

    A medium banana, 23 grams of carbs. 3g of dietary fiber and 14g of sugar.

    potassium is a little better at 10%, C at 11%,

    1c grapes 24g sugar 1.5g fiber C at 19% (best yet)

    Fruits in the end are snacks. They’re high in natural sugars and lack sufficient dietary nutrition to many any significant change to your diet.

    Swapping a serving of snack food like pretzels or cheese-its for a piece of fruit isn’t a significant difference.

    FlyingSquid , in Wrestler Hulk Hogan helps rescue teenage girl trapped after Florida car crash
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Also Hulk Hogan-

    “I don’t know if Brooke was f***ing the black guy’s son,” Hulk raved, the sources add.

    “I mean, I don’t have double standards. I mean, I am a racist, to a point, fing ns. But then when it comes to nice people and s**, and whatever.” …

    “I guess we’re all a little racist. Fing n**.”

    findlaw.com/…/hulk-hogan-says-n-word-admits-racis…

    Heroes can also be big pieces of shit.

    mateomaui , (edited )

    I’ll give him bare minimal credit for admitting it.

    It’s a really low bar these days.

    edit: what part of “it’s a really low bar these days” don’t some of you understand?

    NuXCOM_90Percent ,

    To quote the great dril:

    You do not, under any circumstances, “gotta hand it to them”

    mateomaui ,

    I didn’t have to do anything, I chose to. Doesn’t mean I agree with his views or think he’s any less a piece of shit for it. At least he has more sense of self awareness than racists who deny it because they have a black coworker or something.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    By saying it, he’s telling people who like him that it’s okay. Especially kids, who want to be like their heroes. With great power comes great responsibility.

    mateomaui ,

    Still doesn’t change my reaction to it. But keep lecturing like you’re educating someone if it makes you feel better.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    Your “angry for no reason because I cannot manage my emotions” reaction? 😘

    mateomaui ,

    I’m not angry at all, feel free to say whatever or blow kisses. More likely you’re upset that I’m not backpedaling from my natural reaction, and it’s up to you to get over it. Or don’t. Doesn’t matter.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    I never expected you to do the right thing.

    mateomaui ,

    As if your expectations mean anything?

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    They are as important as your opinions.

    mateomaui ,

    Exactly, and my opinion on this isn’t important at all. You’re just making it so.

    edit: seriously, “at least he knows he’s racist” isn’t that controversial an observation.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    Don’t you like feeling special?

    mateomaui ,

    Not as much as you apparently.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    You’re making me feel special, thanks for your time.

    mateomaui ,

    No problem, happy to help your self esteem.

    norbert ,
    @norbert@kbin.social avatar

    We'd hoped lemmy would be able to have an actual conversation but it seems like a lot of the pedantic "well akshually" terminal-online redditards came along. It's useless trying to argue with them, they're incapable of nuance and reality due to a lack of life experience.

    mateomaui ,

    ikr? It’s always fanatical people. I clearly indicated that I don’t agree with his views or think any better of him. “Bare minimal credit” is a basic backhanded compliment that’s still an insult.

    norbert ,
    @norbert@kbin.social avatar

    What kid is even looking up the Hulk Hogan these days though, dudes like 70 and hasn't been relevant in the 21st century. Him being racist shouldn't surprise anyone.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    Any kid who likes wrestling knows who Hulk Hogan is. And people who still like him use his excuses to do or say bad things.

    norbert ,
    @norbert@kbin.social avatar

    Well we should probably keep those kids from listening to his racist rants or watching his sex tape or watching his horrible reality tv show then. Wouldn't want "the children" to learn he's a piece of shit or something I guess?

    Pick better heros kids.

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    Well yeah they should pick better people to model themselves off of. But we both know most people aren’t that smart. Also, we shouldn’t give racists and pussy-grabbers any headlines.

    NuXCOM_90Percent ,

    Wrestling fans on the regular play the “Well. Chris Benoit was an amazing wrestler and we should respect his work, even if we don’t respect the man” card that almost invariably turns into gushing stories about how much people used to love a violent bully who murdered his wife and child.

    Most people never actually saw hogan wrestle (he had long since stopped giving a shit by the time his “prime” started) but that won’t stop people from wanting to talk about what an amazing guy he was because they watched a WWE dvd about it.

    Deceptichum ,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    Why do racists always pretend everyone else is secretly like them?

    AllonzeeLV , (edited )

    In that one respect, they are accidentally right. Everyone has implicit racial biases whether they realize it or not.

    To claim one is 100% not racist is basically akin to “I don’t even see color.” It is denial, often self-denial. This is just sociology.

    The best way to minimize this reality is to be self-aware of one’s own biases and make conscious effort not to act on those biases.

    It is more damaging to pretend you have no implicit racial bias whatsoever and therefore nothing you can do could possibly have racially based motivations. Proud racists use this line of thinkng to attack critical race theory, a valid sociological concept.

    Deceptichum ,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    Nah.

    I’m aware of my biases. It’s not a factor in them.

    AllonzeeLV ,

    Okee 🤷

    surewhynotlem ,

    People are pattern matching machines. If you don’t find and work to remove racist patterns, your machine is broken. Clean your shit. It’s good for you.

    Drusas ,

    A lot of people, especially racists, lack empathy. They probably can't truly conceive of what it's like to live in a brain that's not racist; therefore, everyone must be racist.

    toiletobserver ,

    I’ve seen good men do bad things, bad men do good things. Whether you’re gonna end up in heaven or hell, it’s not God’s plan, it’s your own. You just gotta remember what it was.

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    0110010001100010 , in Mississippi quits child food program amid Republican ‘welfare state’ attack
    @0110010001100010@lemmy.world avatar

    Pro-life party my fucking ass.

    partial_accumen ,

    They are pro-birth, not pro-life.

    Ashyr ,

    They’re not even pro-birth. Abortions are an important aspect of maternal care. They’re anti-women and that’s literally all there is to it. Misogyny is all there is to it.

    kautau ,

    That and they want more poor babies being born to feed the system and maintain the class gap

    betterdeadthanreddit ,

    Also, how do they know Jaye-sus won’t wave a magic finger and move the ectopic pregnancy / correct the genetic defect that guarantees (+/-) a stillbirth / etc. just in time to save the day? Supporting healthcare that includes access to abortions would be too close to admitting that miracles don’t happen and that’s bad for the brand.

    forrgott ,

    Oh for sure. I figure it’s an immature way to take our their anger at anybody, anywhere, who dares oppose an “abstinence only” approach to sex ed, as well as a way to openly threaten the safety of women in general, of course. Pair this with their disgusting views on things like consent and no fault divorce and the pattern is kinda blatantly obvious.

    spider ,

    George Carlin weighs in

    (NSFW - language)

    MaxVoltage ,
    @MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

    with food that has expiration dates and literally earmarked for helping

    jopepa , in George Carlin AI comedy special is 'ghoulish' and 'creepy,' his daughter says

    Stuff like this makes me think we’re witnessing so many crimes that we don’t have a names for yet.

    RedditWanderer ,

    You wouldn’t download a person!

    jopepa ,

    Some might, I think we’re coming up on an interesting ethical impasse with this tech

    graff ,

    You wouldn’t upload a person to the cloud

    gAlienLifeform , (edited )
    @gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar

    Eh, I think this is just intellectual property right infringement with a side of being an insensitive dumbass and not really that new. Like, how is this any different than someone dressing up in a George Carlin costume and doing their George Carlin impression for an hour? Shouldn’t be using George Carlin’s name to sell your stuff, but it’s not like anyone got enslaved or he dug up Carlin’s corpse or anything.

    e; I’m not sure if this detail changes anything, but did the AI write these jokes or just do the voiceover work? I was under the impression that it just did the voice and another human wrote the material

    ThankYouVeryMuch ,
    @ThankYouVeryMuch@kbin.social avatar

    Why is this or should be a crime? You wouldn't call an Elvis impersonator a criminal, why is it different when it comes from a piece of technology?
    I get why his daughter finds it creepy, but I just listened to it and I liked it, they don't seem to be trying to fool anyone and make very clear it's an ai impersonation. I see it more like a kind of homage or something, it's not like they're putting his face on an ad. I don't think you should need permission from the dead person's family for this kind of things.

    dustyData ,

    Because it doesn’t come from a person. Sure, a person wrote the script and handles the generator. But we haven’t decided yet as humans whether something made entirely by the machine with minimum human input counts yet as agency.

    When a human impersonates a celebrity, it’s partially imperfect. There’s a person underneath that can’t hide and, most importantly, someone we can engage with in good faith to discern intent. They can tells us whether it’s satire, admiration, greed or whatever. Things we can relate to.

    When a machine does it, it usually is way too pitch perfect. And it’s separate one or two degrees from the initiator, the person running the model, posting, etc. This makes it fall on the uncanny valley. The machine cannot be asked for its intention, it has no emotions, it conceals no motive, it posses no goal. You have to hunt down the owner and this makes it so the machine is perceived as a soulless puppet. You cannot relate nor empathize with its product. It’s a nothing imitation, with no art or passion.

    Part of this is because he is not doing a Carlin comedy routine, he’s writing and putting words, implying thoughts and beliefs into Carlin’s voice. This is fundamentally different and more transgressing of Carlin’s legacy. An Elvis impersonator, sings Elvis songs as Elvis had sung them. They don’t write new original songs then try to pass them at if Elvis is now singing, and implicitly endorsing, new material.

    Then on the topic of whether it’s a crime, it’s only if there’s genuine intent. Entertainment and satire are some of the valid reasons. And even then, there are people who disagree and find them tasteless and disrespectful. This is not new, not everyone is happy to see their passed away loved ones or idols be mocked or reanimated as puppets.

    EatATaco ,

    Unless I’m mistaken, the ai wrote the jokes itself. Basically it was fed Carlin material and attempted to mimic his style, cadence, and voice.

    And I’m not sure how you can claim they are trying to imply he made these jokes, its introduced with the ai being very clear that this is not the case.

    This is basically an Elvis impersonator, except it wrote it’s own Elvis songs. And, of course, it isn’t human.

    I feel like your argument boils down to it not being human. This might be a distinction that we have to and should make, but your argument for that distinction seems pretty arbitrary right now.

    dustyData ,

    Yes, welcome to humankind. Most of emotional matters are arbitrary. And yes, the argument is that it was not, attributable, made by a human.

    EatATaco ,

    Most of emotional matters are arbitrary.

    The question the previous poster asked was “Why is this or should be a crime?”

    You answered “Because it doesn’t come from a person.”

    I wasn’t responding to a claim about emotional matters, but legal matters.

    FaceDeer ,
    @FaceDeer@kbin.social avatar

    Things aren't crimes until they're actually made illegal.

    Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug ,

    That was implied, yeah

    rivermonster , in Feds say Texas is blocking Border Patrol from a section of the border, ask U.S. Supreme Court to intervene

    It’s time to extinguish the lone star. When you take up arms against the country… it’s SHERMAN TIME!

    Joking aside, though, this is treason and literally taking up arms against the country. The insurrection needs to be put down, and the courtrooms filled with these traitors on trial, especially Abbot and his cronies.

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    Send in the FBI along with support of they’re using the Texas guard…

    Arrest everyone for interfering with federal law enforcement. If that doesn’t make the point, then we can get more extreme.

    AutistoMephisto ,
    @AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world avatar

    Even simpler than that. Biden is the Commander in Chief. Abbot can mobilize the National Guard in his state, but at the end of the day if their commander receives a stand down order direct from the President, they MUST obey, or it’s insubordination and the penalty for insubordination within the military is much higher than in the private sector.

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    That… assumes they listen. these fuckwits are already overstepping their legal authority. But yes, anyone in the Nat Guard should get a stand-down order and told to fuck off, and refusal… well FAFO applies.

    The problem is that Abbot is not just using Nat Guard, but also local cops. (and park rangers,). Those lot should get hit with federal obstruction charges.

    PhlubbaDubba ,

    The ol’ Eisenhower special, “fuck your segregation supporting national guard, now they’re my integration enforcing national guard.”

    Genuinely shocked more presidents haven’t whipped that one out against insubordinate governors, by now I’d have made a show of having them arrest Abbott on charges of human trafficking for the bus shit.

    AnneBonny ,

    What is Biden waiting for? Is he trying to de-escalate the situation in some other way?

    rambaroo ,

    He’s being a coward like Democrats always are.

    reagansrottencorpse ,

    Sure would be nice to have actual opposition to the fascists. We get the Democrats instead.

    jas0n ,

    That’s sort of their shtick. They need the Republicans to exist so they are the only option for anyone capable of critical thinking. We have a right wing party and a religious, extremist party. I’m never going to vote for anyone who wants to make laws based on what their imaginary friend tells them, so I’m stuck voting for a bunch of corporate shills… Hooray.

    ganksy ,
    @ganksy@lemmy.world avatar

    This is the same and easiest answer. National guard is on fed payroll. See how long they stay the course pro bono.

    AnneBonny ,

    Send in the FBI along with support of they’re using the Texas guard…

    What are you saying here?

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m saying they’re obstructing federal law enforcement. (BPC are federal LEOs,)

    the FBI is probably going to be better equipped to handle dealing with arresting a shit load of idiots who think that obstructing FEDERAL agents is a good idea, than the BPC. Arrest everyone and nail them with all appropriate charges.

    AnneBonny ,

    I just wasn’t sure what you were saying.

    send in the FBI

    OK, I get this part.

    along with support of

    this seems like maybe an incomplete thought here

    they’re using the Texas guard

    uh, yes

    FuglyDuck ,
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    support from the military- nat guard is a military organization, so, FBI may need additional resources to deal with it, if things go to shit.

    AnneBonny ,

    Again, thank you for the clarification.

    dylanmorgan ,

    Yeah, fuck the Supreme Court. I want the FBI to raid the governor’s mansion and take Abbott into custody. Might as well snatch up Dan Patrick and Ken Paxton while they’re at it, put them on trial in…fuck it, Hawaii. I’d bet money a jury of Hawaii residents would vote to toss those three into the Molokai channel and let the waves have them.

    Transporter_Room_3 ,
    @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

    I grew up close to where Sherman was born.

    I’m starting to get the urge to take a stroll on down to the ocean for some southern BBQ.

    rivermonster ,

    I love BBQ both literally and figuratively. LOL

    DemBoSain ,
    @DemBoSain@midwest.social avatar

    I do not like BBQ, but I’ll pitch in some gas money and a mix-tape.

    toiletobserver , in Iowa's Christian conservatives follow their faith when voting, and some say it leads them to Trump

    “Iowa’s conservatives pretend their faith says whatever they feel like when voting, and some say it leads them to Cheetos.”

    Tylerdurdon , (edited )

    Thou shall licketh the orange from thyne fingers in holy glory, sayeth the Lord.

    Ezekiel 29:17

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