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FlashMobOfOne , in Vince McMahon Resigns From Endeavor-Owned Sports Group After Horrific Rape & Sex Trafficking Claims
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Nearly everyone who’s ever worked with McMahon agrees that he’s a piece of shit human being, so it wouldn’t surprise me if every bit of this is true.

With that said, nothing’s going to happen to him. Robert Kraft was caught on camera partaking in a sex trafficker’s ring and the courts suppressed it. He still sits pretty in his owners box every Sunday and has his praises sung by the NFL.

gastationsushi ,

Robert Kraft got the billionaire treatment in court with a judge being hostile to the prosecution. They claimed the cops lied getting the search warrant. The courts even went so far to say this sex work wasn’t coerced.

Many people would argue these masseuses were exploited, but this how capitalism works. The system ain’t about to reform itself out of existence.

FlashMobOfOne ,
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Yup.

penquin , in American Debt: The typical American household is now paying a record $1,583 a month in various loans

That’s nothing if you have a mortgage, a car and student loans. I thought it was much more than that.

Wogi ,

I think because the number of people with a mortgage is smaller than those without one, the average skews lower. Mortgages are the first loan they mention at 1800+ a month.

They should include average rent per month to get a better picture of how much people are earning just to spend immediately.

gedaliyah ,
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Hooray for being above average at something!

TenderfootGungi ,

True. But I know a lot of people that have paid off their house and or car. This is an average.

LodeMike ,

I really wish that journalists would learn how to write a headline. “Typical” can mean either mean or median, either for the whole population or just for the population that would reasonably take on debt (similar to how unemployment is counted). [or sometimes mode] but I think they’re saying average.

Dark_Arc ,
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Well they definitely aren’t going to start writing about the “mean American’s” debt 😉

themeatbridge , in WWE Founder Vince McMahon Accused of Sexual Abuse and Trafficking in Lawsuit by Former Employee

I’m not saying he’s definitely guilty, but if you had asked me, “who will be the next celebrity to be accused of sexual assault and human trafficking? The answer will not surprise you,” Vince McMahon would have been high on my list of guesses.

chaogomu ,

High on the list because he's done it before. There have been multiple, credible rape allegations against him since the 80s.

themeatbridge ,

See I didn’t even know that about him, but I believe it.

Montagge ,
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He spent a lot of effort and money making sure no one knew. He also put a known pedophile in charge of a children's program and tried to cover up the abuse. He also helped cover up a murder.

Track_Shovel ,
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need details on the murder cover up

Montagge ,
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Jimmy Snuka's murder of Nancy Argentino in 1983. It's a lot of speculation and rumors, but Vince was armpit deep in that case when he didn't need to be.

https://www.wrestlezone.com/news/616233-vince-mcmahon-jimmy-snuka-case

Samsy , in Another Mysterious Roman Dodecahedron Has Been Unearthed in England

Ancient Romans be like: “haha, they don’t know how to use the three dodecahedrons.”

ArtieShaw ,
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If it came down to figuring out the three dodecahedrons or using the communal sponge on a stick, I'd take the risk with the dodecahedrons.

snooggums ,
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For those that don't know

Step 1: roll up a half orc barbarian
Step 2: wield a great axe
Step 3: roll a natural 20 on an attack

Now you use the three dodecahedrons!

Stovetop ,

But a dodecahedron is a d12

snooggums ,
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Azzu ,

Yep, and a greataxe, which is the most common barbarian weapon, uses 1d12 as damage die.

Now, a crit (natural 20 on a 20 sided die) doubles the dice and makes it 2d12, and half orcs have a feature so that they can roll an additional weapon damage die when critting on their attack, which makes it 3d12.

Crackhappy , in Arizona may join Italy by banning lab-grown meat from the state
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Reminds me of cities banning cars to prevent horse drawn carriages from being obsolete. Stupid.

FlyingSquid , in Teen sued Utah over social media law requiring curfew for minors
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The law also imposes a curfew blocking minors from accessing platforms between 10:30 pm and 6:30 am.

You know… when I was in high school back in the early 90s, I’d spend half the night on local BBSes, which were sort of proto-social media restricted to a single phone number you could dial, and a little later I used IRC and Usenet by dialing in to the university computing system. And you know what happened? I was sleepy, but I made a lot of friends, some of them for life. There’s a guy from Turkey I met on IRC when we were both in high school and I lived in the U.S. in Indiana. We still talk and we’re both in our 40s. It was worth every minute. Even the times where I got harassed, and I did get harassed, on those local BBSes.

Somehow I survived all of that without turning into a drooling imbecile, a juvenile delinquent or commit suicide in my teens. (I also played D&D!)

Teenagers stay up late. That’s just how they are. Let them enjoy it.

gibmiser ,

I agree, but a BBS where you are communicating via text is very different from doom scrolling Tik Tok

FlyingSquid ,
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In terms of the amount of information you can take in, sure. In terms of the psychological damage, I’m not so sure. There was plenty of harassment and bullying on BBSes. As I said, I got harassed. I had also developed a ‘fuck you, I don’t care what you say’ attitude to pretty much anyone who decided to be a dick to me by that point, so it didn’t really affect me, but a more insecure teen? Just as many problems as social media today I suspect. There were just less kids doing it.

RotaryKeyboard ,
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I did the same thing as you, at the same time, and had similar experiences. (Except I played MUDs more than I spent time on Usenet. Still, I made friends for life.)

The social media experience today isn’t anything like the experience on those old BBSes. I was just remarking to someone yesterday that Facebook’s process of tracking which ads stay on your screen – even if they’re not clicked – has finally defeated my policy of never clicking on anything in Facebook. I watched it slowly adapt to show me things that got me to stop and look, and now my feed is a steady stream of little dopamine hits, and very little social interaction.

I don’t know that curfews will make any difference, but clearly the social media landscape of today is way, way worse than what we were exposed to, and it needs to be regulated.

Not Lemmy, though! So far it’s the closest thing I’ve seen to the old BBSes in a long time.

gibmiser ,

I was a little after you, I played a few BBS games, but was mostly a forums guy.

I’m not really talking about the harassment so much as the mental engagement required. It just feels like things on the internet are becoming more like tv in the sense that people are passive consumers and not engaging in actual conversations or meaningful interactions. And most content used to be created by average users with little to gain financially. Now everything is monetized with influences and…

FlyingSquid ,
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But isn’t that what they’re claiming is the problem? Harassment and the like?

Chriswild ,

Not really? Boredom is boredom and it sounds like you’re doing the same thing people said about video games and TV and rock and and and.

gibmiser ,

I understand why you would think that, but I sincerely think its a different type of experience.
Forums and BBS were not bottomless content like tiktok Facebook insta, YouTube. Whenever you refresh the page new content shows up. And the content is designed to be bite sized - 15 seconds for tiktok, youtube shorts… and they are mostly passive. You barely interact with them usually you like, share, whatever and move on.

TV is the worst because it is 100% passive.

Reading a book is mostly passive but requires your imagination.

Some games are engaging and require skill or creativity.

Forums encourage conversation. If there was no conversation on something that got posted - be it text or a link to a video or whatever - then the thread would disappear into the back pages.

But I’m open to the possibility that I’m being an old geezer romanticizing the past. I’m not immune to that phenomenon.

Chriswild ,

By this criticism I believe music would also fit as you’re passive.

Here’s the quick and dirty of it: Entertainment is about exploiting our brain and short-form-video is just the new thing.

Why the hell would I be bothered by SFV and not care about diets that do way worse for the health of an individual?

gibmiser ,

Well, I consider music closer to reading because it often requires interpretation of lyrics and has no accompanied visuals usually.

Regardless, I can admit that for me and my problems with SFV it is largely a gut and emotional feeling that I have against them. I feel like it is much less mentally stimulating than most other online entertainment but I don’t have any solid data for backing that up.

Chriswild ,

I don’t think everyone who listens to music is engaging with the music. People will be shocked that Rage Against the Machine is political despite listening to them for years.

My issue with SFV is entirely with the content that is more popular in the medium. I’ve seen SFV that promotes learning in bite-sized chunks and I’ve seen some that are entirely wholesome and uplifting. Just like some people can watch Jersey Shore, read Atlas Shrugged, or listen to mumble rap and I will consider that a waste.

I don’t think I have the right to tell everyone what they can do with their time. So I don’t support the condemnation of something just because I don’t approve of it.

punkwalrus ,
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This could also be survivors bias.

Now, in my beliefs, I agree with you, having also lived that dialup BBS life in the late 80s and early 90s. But part of me always triggers when I hear “when I was a kid, I [did thing] and I turned out fine!” Because maybe we did, and those that didn’t aren’t posting about it. The same arguments are used about bike helmets and seat belts.

The social media of today is like comparing “I ate hamburgers as a kid, and I turned out fine,” and comparing them to eating fast food burgers every day. There’s a difference in volume, calories, and lifestyle.

ech ,

I’m not saying they’re wrong, but yeah, it really comes off as how boomers talk about how they lived through lead paint/gas “just fine” and worked their way through college. Things have exponentially shifted since the heyday of irc and chatrooms, and while I don’t think a dumb curfew is the solution, it’s a problem that needs some sort of addressing.

lolcatnip ,

We should be making decisions on what’s appropriate using science, not feels. I don’t know if the Utah law is based on any sound research, but given that it’s Utah, I’m assuming not.

Orbituary ,
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Jesus. I don’t remember writing this post, but I guess I did. I wonder when I created the alt account name I wrote this on.

dan1101 ,

I was there for the bootleg software but yeah. I ran up big phone bills because we lived in a rural area and everywhere was long distance.

sin_free_for_00_days ,

Oh yeah, those phone bills. I would find BBSs in the local computer magazine, thinking they were local. But for some reason, my area code was big enough that part of it was long distance. I can’t imagine doing it today, but it sure seemed worth it to spend forever at 1200 baud, downloading a black and white topless picture of Morgan Fairchild.

dan1101 ,

Now that I think about it I could have probably just bought a couple games instead of giving the phone company $200 a month at times. But games were often diaappointments. Certain games like Ultima I would buy but others I would try first lol.

FlyingSquid ,
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Haha. I did that too. I used to download porn pics from the internet since I could use my dad’s university account, then upload them to the BBS, get a huge ratio, then download all the games I wanted. Then I had games AND porn.

ikidd ,
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I ran 3 BBSs when I was a teenager, I learned to get a thick skin pretty early. When some 50yo dude that’s paying for a modem to watch porn at 9600baud starts loosing his shit on you, you learn to handle yourself or you’d go under quickly.

brian ,

This is utah though, a state mostly controlled by mormons. The mormon families I know take all their kids’ electronics before they are to go to bed, and don’t give them back until the morning, some incl 18yo in high school. Monitoring everything they look at to make sure they don’t see anything that could make them question their beliefs is common

This is just them pushing the strict control all the hyper religious families in utah already exercise onto everyone else, like all the other silly laws in utah

Someonelemmy , in Trans youth ‘terrified’ of what Louisiana’s new health care ban will mean

The court cases striking down these shitty laws really need to get moving. Restricting access to hormone therapy is blatantly unconstitutional, as the existing challenges that have made it through the courts have proved.

People born XXY (Klinefelter’s Syndrome) can get testosterone for treatment, so to say someone who needs testosterone for similar gender affirming care cannot get it is plain discrimination on the basis of gender and sexual orientation.

Seasoned_Greetings ,

I wholly agree with you. And I say this next part as an ally living in Louisiana:

I don’t see the courts being able to stop this from happening. Inevitably, it will get challenged and end up at the Supreme Court, which will rule 6-3 “states rights”.

Conservative justices have shown time and again that unless the constitution literally says the words “shall not infringe upon trans care for minors” they will not interpret it as such.

The only thing stopping this law in the last few years was a veto from the democratic governor, and now that that has flipped republican, the only thing that will stop it is enough people turning out to vote in 2027.

Someonelemmy ,

I’m not so sure SCOTUS would rule that way. Even Gorsuch ruled in favor of lgbtq rights because it is such obvious discrimination: npr.org/…/supreme-court-delivers-major-victory-to…

Seasoned_Greetings ,

I hope you’re right. I think the involvement of minors might change that though

trackcharlie , (edited )

Very big difference between social discrimination and medical treatment

thoughtorgan ,

But that syndrome is literally about a lack of testosterone production in males, so of course hormone treatment is justified.

There’s an imbalance being fixed.

Gender affirmative care isn’t medically necessary, you’re not curing an imbalance. You’re modifying your body to align with what you want it to be.

In my mind it’s just like plastic surgery. You wouldn’t let a kid get tons of plastic surgery because they don’t like their body image. Why should we start pumping them full of hormones?

yuriy ,

I’d bet anything you don’t personally know or love any trans folk. On the off chance you do, please please please never tell them that their diagnosable condition is akin to plastic surgery. This is precisely what people are referring to when they talk about harmful, close minded ideals towards trans people and their identities.

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  • yuriy ,

    Why are we letting them delude themselves further?

    Why would this ever be any of your business?

    I don’t like the way you drive your car, I’ve decided it’s unhealthy and morally wrong. A bunch of people are all arguing that you should have your license revoked because of it. Seems kinda fucked up, right?

    You could get real driving experts, with real bona fides, to present facts saying the way you drive your car is no different from anyone else (as it relates to health and safety). But because I feel like I deserve to be the moral authority on the matter, me and my crowd are going to continue dehumanizing you at every opportunity, and will ruthlessly demand that you lose your driving privileges.

    You want the same thing, but for bodily autonomy. For no reason other than you think you know better than everyone.

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  • bibliotectress ,

    Stop being the language police, and people will leave you alone.

    That might literally be the dumbest thing I’ve ever I heard.

    “iF yOu DiDn’T cAlL uS oUt FoR bEiNg TwAtS, wE’d ToTaLlY mInD oUr BuSiNeSs”

    That doesn’t even make sense. If you hear about using the wrong pronouns, it’s probably someone you know asking you not to misgender them. If you’re hearing about it more than that, it’s probably because of whichever talking head you’re listening to that’s trying to make you mad.

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  • trashgirlfriend ,

    Latinx. People who menstruate. Those with penises.

    A bunch of niche terms used by like a dozen people, one of which being pretty much used by like weird liberals with MBAs and the other two just being specific about anatomy and ignoring gender

    HOLY SHIT BROTHER YOU ARE SO OPPRESSED

    Literally no one is stopping you from saying man or woman, you god damn manbaby

    thoughtorgan ,

    A lot of media is using that phrasing. It’s leaching into everything. Very disingenuous to say it’s only a dozen people.

    I never said I was oppressed. These were my criticisms. Yet everybody is screeching at me like I’m calling for trans death.

    prole ,

    They’re both gender affirming care even if you don’t like it.

    NikkiDimes ,

    In my mind

    Are you a doctor?

    thoughtorgan ,

    No, just trying to have a conversation.

    You guys get to share your opinions and thoughts, even though you aren’t doctors.

    NikkiDimes ,

    You’re claiming something is flat out not medically necessary when you clearly do not have the knowledge to make that call. Your opinions cost people their lives.

    thoughtorgan ,

    My opinions cost nobody their life?

    I said it’s not medically necessary because there’s not a physical imbalance that needs to be fixed, like the syndrome the person I was responding to used as a comparison.

    A person with gender dysphoria will not have physical problems, like the people with the syndrome mentioned would.

    That’s all I was getting at. Whether you consider medically necessary to include their distress over a mental disorder, was something I wasn’t touching on.

    My only opinion that’s really relevant is that I don’t think minors should be allowed to transition. At no point did I say trans folk should be harmed or berated in the street or whatever else I’m being accused of.

    NikkiDimes ,

    My opinions cost nobody their life?

    yikes

    thoughtorgan ,

    I’ve done nothing except share words online. You need to get over yourself.

    yuriy ,

    Take your own advice and stop being so worried about the genitals of strangers.

    Do you not see how egregiously you are overstepping boundaries here?

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  • yuriy ,

    If they are happier, cool for them.

    So this is just meaningless fluff? Or are we agreeing that these, uh… “mutilated children” as you so eloquently put, often lead much happier lives with their chosen identity?

    The alternative is they kill themselves in droves, which they’re already doing. Thanks in large part to people like you. Thanks again for being so understanding.

    thoughtorgan ,

    I’m for them doing whatever they want when they’re of age.

    I don’t think we should allow parents to transition their children.

    theneverfox ,
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    Because they kill themselves. That’s why we give gender affirming care - because at best it just really can mess them up not to have it. And they were killing themselves. A lot.

    So we came up with a protocol to do reversible puberty blockers for 4-6 years while they and their parents work with an endocrinologist and therapist to make sure this is the right call.

    Only at 16 or 17 they then get the option for hormone therapy, and if they’ve been on puberty blockers then they either grow (or don’t grow) boobs naturally.

    And unless they think there’s a high risk of suicide or self-mutilation otherwise (and there’s a process and a panel that needs to approve this) they can’t get bottom surgery until they’re at least 18 - assuming they even want it

    We also do allow elective plastic surgery with parental and doctor approval - breast reduction or implants for example - at the age they’re eligible for hormone therapy.

    Also, we give gender affirming plastic surgery to cis male teens and preteens who have manboobs, I think it can even be covered by insurance. It’s not unnatural or necessary unless they have a high risk for breast cancer, it’s purely because it makes them insecure

    thoughtorgan , (edited )

    Should we start telling schizophrenics to listen to the voices in their head? I’m sure they’d feel a lot more comfortable in their skin.

    The general populace agrees with me, even if they’re not saying it out loud. Trans women have to seek out special dating apps, because no cis men actually want to have a relationship with them. If trans women were really women, and I mean if people really believed that. Why won’t they date trans people?

    theneverfox ,
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    LMAO, you think most people agree with you?

    Most people don’t actually care much either way because they don’t know any trans people. They just parrot things that sound good without putting any thought into it

    Let’s put in a little thought.

    Why would trans people have a dedicated dating app if no one was interested? It would just be one of the million other failed dating apps no one has ever heard of. Why do they have prominent categories on many porn sites? Why do they do so well on only fans?

    They’re less than 0.5% of the population… If they’re that overrepresented then clearly, there’s a demand

    But I think we’re getting into the source of this… Trans girls make your dick confused, and you’re not secure enough in your sexuality to confront what that means

    thoughtorgan ,

    I’m bisexual. I’m not uncomfortable with sexuality, or dicks.

    I’m a man, I dated men for 8 years

    All of the cis straight men I’ve encountered in my life are very against the thought of having any relations with trans people.

    I hear some really hateful shit from a lot of people that I don’t care for, specifically about trans women who appear on their tinder feed or whatever

    By and large, cis people are looking for relations with other cis people.

    Crikeste ,

    Typical centrist idiot halting all progress because they think their thoughts are so profound.

    Are you a trans person? No? Quit telling them how they should treat themselves, you empathy lacking dumb ass.

    It’s none of your fucking business.

    thoughtorgan , (edited )

    I don’t need to be trans to have an opinion.

    I’m also on the left. Not everybody who disagrees with you falls into the political category you don’t like

    yuriy ,

    Your opinion screams of a lack of understanding, and your manner belies an unwillingness to even hear contrary information.

    Don’t be surprised when people refuse to engage with you in this punji pit you’ve constructed around a boxing ring.

    samus12345 ,
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    Reconstructive surgery to fix an aesthetic-only deformity isn’t “medically necessary” either, by your definition. So you get upset that people stare at you in public? Ha ha, feelings aren’t real, get over it!

    thoughtorgan ,

    I wouldn’t think that’s medically necessary no.

    force ,

    You literally said “so of course hormone treatment [for klinefelter syndrome] is justified”. you didn’t say the exact words “it’s medically necessary” but you’re acting like for some reason it’s justified for X person to get HRT that exists solely to make their bodies more similar to what would make them comfortable, while it’s not justified for Y person to do the same thing. You’re drawing arbitrary lines for what specific condition “counts” as justification to get the treatment. And here you are admitting that you label both as “not medically necessary” yet only one you’re vehemently against and crying about online?

    It’s also ignoring the fact that a large portion of people who are trans are also born with “abnormal” hormone production or sex characteristics (major chromosomal abnormalities are reported to be about 8-10x as prevalent in trans populations compared to the general population) and gender dysphoria (along with pretty much every other disorder in existence) is heavily tied to genetics, prevalence of anything like ADHD or gender dysphoria or bipolar can be traced to various sets of specific genes and in the case of e.g. latent gender dysphoria or latent bipolar or latent depression, are often present for someone’s entire life (i.e. they’re “predisposed” to it) without being “active” but then (irreversibly) start developing from, or are triggered by, events – like reaching a certain point in development (especially puberty), or experiencing certain environmental conditions over a long period of time (especially as a child), or even as an acute chemical response to a drug (for example, anti-depressants and hallucinogens can cause trigger full-blown bipolar in those who are predisposed), or various other factors, and a combination of a bunch of them.

    You are discriminating against people for their medical condition and hand-picking scenarios in which medical treatment is “acceptable” with absolutely zero scientific, logical, or moral basis. You are acting on your insecurity, emotions, and hatred of trans people alone, and nothing else.

    CultHero ,

    If a child is born with a cleft lip would you repair it or tell them that’s the way god made them and they have to live with it?

    If a child is neurodivergent and has severe gender dysphoria becasue of it do you force them to remain unhappy and uncomfortable or do you help them make adjustments to make them more comfortable?

    If you can’t “fix” the issue isn’t the next best step accommodating for it? If someone is paralyzed and the spine can’t be repaired do you leave them in bed or give them a wheelchair? If I person is deaf do you just leave them in silence or give them hearing aids and/or teach them to sign?

    Being trans is very often like being gay, it’s hardwired into the brain, just like being left handed. If it’s just the way a person’s brain is wired isn’t it better to relieve discomfort by adjusting the physical to match the mental if the mental can’t be adjusted to match the physical?

    There will be kids who are experimenting with their gender identity and decide that they’re most comfortable as their birth gender and that’s great, any form of self discovery is awesome but there will always be people who are gender dysphoric and the most successful way of alleviating that dysphoria is to transition.

    Years and years of therapy come before any form a medical transition for kids and often transition simply means a preferred name change, change of clothes and gender affirming hair style. If a child is comfortable with just those changes then medical transition isn’t necessary. If however they, after therapy and non medical gender affirming care still feel uncomfortable puberty blockers can be used to pause puberty until the child is older. Once they’re older they can decide whether or not transition is the right choice for them.

    No one should go into transition without therapy first but gender dysphoria is so uncomfortable. It’s like walking around in shoes that are 3 sizes too big or too small your entire life. You can get by, but it’s painful.

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  • NikkiDimes ,

    A beautiful woman? It’s not about beauty, it’s about gender identity, wtf lol. You ignorant ass hahaha

    thoughtorgan ,

    Yeah, gender dysphoria. The mental illness.

    yuriy ,

    So you’re actively arguing they not receive treatment for something you do think is a mental illness?

    No wonder mental health is failing so hard across the board, people are just deciding which things do and don’t get treatment all willy nilly based on feelings apparently!

    thoughtorgan ,

    I don’t think treatment should be telling them they’re now the gender they want to be instead of figuring out how to accept yourself for who you truly are.

    But that’s my opinion. I don’t need it to be my way. If they are happier, cool for them.

    yuriy ,

    You don’t know shit about trans people, but you DO know exactly what treatment entails for them? You’ve got a very human-shaped blind spot in your demonization goggles there, friend. I’d suggest you stop viewing them as some kind of nebulous “enemy”.

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  • yuriy ,

    Talk about fragile minds, you’re just parroting random hatespeech about a whole ass group of people because… what? What drives a person to do that? At the very least you’re going waayyy out of your way just to be mean, is that cool to you? Is this thing you’re doing productive?

    It could be said I’m being no more productive, but at least I’m not shitting all over a whole bunch of my fellow humans while doing it. Who hurt you?

    lolcatnip ,

    Lots of doctors disagree with you. I think I’ll go with their opinions over those of some uninformed internet rando who decides things based on feelings.

    thoughtorgan ,

    The same doctors that started the opioid epidemic because they were in big pharmas pocket?

    I wonder how much the hormone manufacturers are making.

    yuriy ,

    ohh, you’re a conspiracy theorist!

    god, that explains everything. you should’ve opened with the big-hormone shit, we could’ve all just had a big laugh.

    thoughtorgan ,

    You’re really going to argue there’s no economic interest in trans gender care?

    Or that there hasn’t been massive issues with healthcare systems that push profits for pharma execs?

    yuriy ,

    Pick a lane.

    You’re not less of a transphobe because you also buy into really ridiculous reasoning for your transphobia.

    thoughtorgan ,

    No I’m labeled a transphobe because I don’t want to remove all forms of gendered language, or allow children to be pumped full of hormones.

    I also distrust pharma because I work in the industry.

    It’s a free country, I’m not seeking to destroy freedoms of adults. The opposite, actually. Freedom for me is freedom for you.

    I’m granted the freedom to think differently than you. You’ve been brain washed to scream Nazi when people disagree.

    yuriy ,

    You’re the first person to even think nazi in this case. You’ve been shitty and alarmist at every opportunity, shifting the goalposts around to match whatever your current talking point is. Go have a bad faith argument in a conservative community, they LOVE throwing the word nazi around.

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  • SpraynardKruger , in Pasadena officer died by suicide hours after learning he's under investigation, police say

    Inb4 police unions try to use this as an example of the dangers of investigating officers

    cmbabul ,

    I fucking hate that you’re right but I can hear my conservative aunt saying it right now

    MataVatnik , in Military police threaten to charge sex worker who offers discounts to Canadian soldiers
    @MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

    Fuck the state for wasting resources on ruining someone’s life for the dumbest fucking reason. I swear if it was men doing the prostitution nobody would give a shit.

    ElBarto ,
    @ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I swear if it was men doing the prostitution nobody would give a shit.

    Well, that would depend who the clients are.

    Rootiest ,
    @Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

    From the sound of it her business has only increased since getting their attention

    JustZ , in Trump attorney tells judges presidential immunity would even cover assassinating rivals, selling pardons
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    “Could a president order SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political rival? That’s an official act–an order to Seal Team Six,” U.S. Circuit Judge Florence Pan asked Sauer.

    “He would have to be, and would speedily be, you know, impeached and convicted before the criminal prosecution,” Sauer replied, setting a pre-condition for such prosecution in Pan’s hypothetical.

    Unless it’s a Republican, he means.

    This is their plan for every election, administrative, and legal matter: let Congress decide.

    A body they can buy bribe and beleaguer.

    AbouBenAdhem ,

    This is their plan for every election, administrative, and legal matter: let Congress decide.
    A body they can buy bribe and beleaguer.

    Or “legally” assassinate opposing members before the impeachment vote.

    Evilcoleslaw ,

    “He would have to be, and would speedily be, you know, impeached and convicted before the criminal prosecution,”

    Then he could assassinate them all, continually, until Congress is packed with people so afraid they’ll be killed if they step out of line and there’s no legal recourse. Just like the Founding Fathers intended…

    pearsaltchocolatebar ,

    That’s his dream scenario.

    JustZ ,
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    Obviously the intent of the founding fathers and the people is that insurrectionists cannot be permitted on a ballot, not by any officer of any court or state.

    It’s the same as the Fourth Amendment. If the prohibition on warrantless search and seizure has any meaning at all, it is a command to every law officer, attorney, and judge, as to how they must do their part of their job in the matter, and that rule is that: if the constable blunders, the criminal must go free. The remedy is implied by the text, because if it’s not the text doesn’t mean shit.

    ReallyActuallyFrankenstein ,

    “He would have to be, and would speedily be, you know, impeached and convicted before the criminal prosecution,” Sauer replied, setting a pre-condition for such prosecution in Pan’s hypothetical.

    It’s so hilarious that this is the response. Just like Republicans “speedily” impeached Trump after he mounted an insurrection?

    Evilcoleslaw ,

    It’s even worse as the President could dial up air strikes on the Capitol to kill them all and it’s all very legal and very cool.

    Rapidcreek OP , in US sees largest COVID wave since omicron

    If only there was a safe, effective, available, current and free vaccine. If only…

    Everythingispenguins , (edited )

    WITCH BURN THEM

    Okay because I guess that it is needed /S

    dragontamer ,

    Current vaccine targets EG.5. I don’t know how close JN.1 is though.

    It seems like COVID protection is a gray sliding scale. EG.5 is better than BA.5 vaccine is better than original vaccine is better than nothing. But with enough mutations even EG.5 vaccine isn’t enough to prevent mild illness / staying home from work for a few days or causing you to spread COVID-19 JN.1 to your friends.

    But the vaccines seem really good at preventing severe illness that sends people to the hospital or graveyards.


    We need to stay educated on the vaccine and it’s efficacy to changing variants.

    Rapidcreek OP ,

    Isn’t this what epidemiologists predicted? That it would mutate into a less deadly form but become endemic? It would still require regular boosters, just like the annual flu vaccine.

    dragontamer ,

    It was one debated endgame, yes.

    I’m no epidemiologist but I was hoping for eradication of the virus personally. But regular vaccines with my yearly flu shot isn’t bad at all, a 2nd shot in the other arm and I’m on my way each year.

    Note that the yearly flu-vaccine is really against 3x different strains of the flu. Moving forward, we can likely have 2x flu vaccines + 1x COVID19 shot all in one, so you only get one shot and get all the protection you need each year. I don’t know what the progress is on the combined flu/covid shot, but its at least theoretically possible.

    But the status quo (just get 2x different shots) really isn’t a big deal.

    Bananigans ,

    If you want a minor update for your infobank, flu vaccines have been quadrivalent for a few years now.

    Frozengyro ,

    I doubt that will happen. Too many are fine with the flu vaccine but against the covid vaccine

    pearsaltchocolatebar ,

    As someone who got the flu and covid vaccine at the same time, I definitely don’t recommend it. It was worse than my actual covid infection.

    dragontamer ,

    I got both at the same time last October.

    Nothing happened to me, at all. I went to work just 1 hour afterwards (took a long lunch break just in case something happened) but it was a waste. Felt perfectly fine.

    KneeTitts ,
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    As someone who got the flu and covid vaccine at the same time, I definitely don’t recommend it

    anecdotal, and its worth pointing out that if you had covid or the flu within 3 month previous to getting shots, the shots can cause a slight reaction making you ‘feel sick’, this is likely what most people who say “the flu shot made me sick” are experiencing.

    pearsaltchocolatebar ,

    No kidding it’s anecdotal; I literally shared an anecdote.

    I know what an immune response from a vaccine feels like. Doing both at once can definitely cause a stronger immune response than from one alone.

    As someone who had a strong immune response from the covid vaccine alone, getting both at once was significantly worse.

    For me it felt like I got hit by a truck on my way to the hospital for a severe flu the entire day after I got the vaccines.

    eestileib ,

    Becoming endemic doesn’t necessarily mean “no big deal”. Smallpox was endemic. Polio was endemic. Malaria is endemic.

    Rapidcreek OP ,

    Note the key word ‘was’. Reason is vaccines. The malaria vaccine is only recently available

    dragontamer , (edited )

    Note that Smallpox and Polio didn’t mutate like COVID19.

    There was much debate on whether or not the so called “Spike Protein” of the COVID19 virus would mutate rapidly enough to keep up with vaccines. If COVID19 mutated slower (like smallpox), then it would have been erradicated. Some supercomputer even went in and calculated all the ways COVID19 could change and decided that the spike-protein was the least-likely to change. So this is our best shot at stopping the virus.

    Alas, here we are on… erm… JN.1? After EG.5, after BA.5, after Omicron, after Delta, after Alpha, after the original COVID19. The speed of this thing’s mutation is too quick (even on the so called “Spike Protein” that was supposed to be a difficult to mutate sequence). Which was not the happy future we wanted. Still though, we can make new vaccines as fast as COVID19 mutates. So this isn’t too bad in the great scheme of things. Just keep your shots up to date and we’ll be good moving forward.

    As I said earlier: I really, really was hoping for eradication.


    Moving forward: this means that as different variants pop up, it will be the job of public health officials to:

    1. Sequence the new mutations.
    2. Predict the dominant mutations.
    3. Order a vaccine against the (future-predicted) mutations.
    4. Tell everyone when the new vaccine is ready and when its been a big enough change that we all need to update the vaccine in our system.

    And moving forward, step 2 or step3 are perilous. A bad prediction will cause people to lose trust (and real-life situations, like government shutdowns during said studies, like back in 2014, could cause worse predictions. IE: government mismanagement causes loss of trust, causing more mismanagement causing more loss of trust). I think its more important to realize how many little elves need to do their job in this big chain of predictions for any of this to work out, and to respect the hard work put in.

    Even when the work will inevitably fail / mess up one year or two.

    A lot of people are in practice stuck at step4 (too distrustful of our public health officials that they refuse to take the updated vaccines). But as a reminder, it can absolutely get worse, and will get worse when they finally make a mistake. Its hard work trying to predict the future, and I’m honestly surprised a mistake hasn’t happened yet. (BA.5 was a perilous vaccine, there was a lot of debate over the prediction. It turned out to be correct, but we aren’t going to be so lucky moving forward).

    pearsaltchocolatebar ,

    That’s how most diseases trend. Killing your host isn’t super conducive to survival.

    I mean, other corona viruses are part of the “common cold” collective.

    Ranvier ,

    Evidence is accumulating that the vaccines may reduce likelihood of “long covid” symptoms as well.

    www.bmj.com/content/383/bmj-2023-076990

    Odelay42 ,

    I got boosted in October. Been very good about getting all my shots.

    Still got covid from my office in late December, and it knocked me down for two full weeks.

    The vaccine is not enough, we need to be masking again.

    RinseDrizzle ,

    Man, I hate that I need to mask up again. I was diligent about it during early COVID. Still to some degree once vaccines were rolling out. I’ve gotten bad about it lately though.

    In my defense I always run hot and I’m an excessive head sweater. Simply masking during a grocery run turns half my face into a sauna and gets me drippy. Masking during a concert or something is so miserable.

    Had it back in October but reckon I should get boosted up again and get back to being diligent. Our state is on the uptick in cases lately. :C

    SnotFlickerman ,
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    I have the same issues as you with masks but I am immunocompromised so I don’t really get a choice.

    It’s get vaccinated and mask up or fucking die.

    Maybe y’all should be happy that masking is just uncomfortable for you and not uncomfortable and a life or death choice.

    Fucking whiners. It’s not that hard.

    RinseDrizzle ,

    Sorry to hear about your extra challenges, truly. I absolutely count myself lucky being someone who had a bad time with COVID recovery vs a fight for my life. I’m also a cancer survivor with elderly parents, plenty of friends in similar immunocompromised boats. Would be an absolute tragedy should any of us succumb to this virus.

    If I came off as whiney, not the intention. More frustrated with the fact that life as we know it continues to change, with no end to this slow burn pandemic in sight. Have friends in healthcare with no shortage of horror stories. It’s exhausting.

    Just airing frustrations, but obviously there’s always someone going through worse.

    corsicanguppy ,

    reckon I should get boosted up again

    Here’s a simple way to check whether you need a booster:

    • is there a new one?

    Given its track record and its benefits, that’s the only question left.

    RinseDrizzle ,

    Oh yeah, my card has been filling up with each new booster dropping. In it for the long haul so fully expect this to be standard procedure for foreseeable future.

    MahnaMahna ,

    I mean, it provides more protection, not immunity. I got boosted in October but I was pregnant and thus immunocompromised. I got it in November but none of the rest of the family did… We hadn’t been leaving the house for anything but groceries and even that was enough. My daughter was born at the tail end of symptoms so here’s hoping she got a good dose of antibodies to protect her until she’s old enough to be vaccinated herself.

    lyam23 ,

    Same here. I got the flu and covid vaccine the week before Thanksgiving and got sick with COVID. The week before Christmas. I was out of commission for 2 weeks and I still have a little bit of a cough. The vaccine is not enough.

    Duamerthrax ,

    The vaccine is not enough, we need to be masking again.

    Reminder, masks you keep you from infecting other people. You need a face shield to keep from getting infected.

    RazorsLedge ,

    Yes masks do help prevent a covid carrier from infecting others.

    Are you suggesting that wearing a mask doesn’t help protect you from being infected by others? Why’s that?

    Duamerthrax ,

    I’m suggesting that if you’re going to wear a mask, you might as well wear a face shield as well. A lot of people accidentally spit while talking. A mask doesn’t prevent getting infected from spit/micro droplets that land in your eyes. There was a 30% reduction in infection rates from people who wear eyeglasses and those don’t even protect from the sides. Half measures aren’t enough.

    sebinspace ,

    Got the booster in October. Working in a hospital requires it.

    Kraven_the_Hunter ,

    My family is fully boosted and my wife and I are currently in the middle of covid. Fortunately not terribly serious though.

    FlyingSquid , in Iowa won't participate in US food assistance program for kids this summer
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    An EBT card does nothing to promote nutrition at a time when childhood obesity has become an epidemic,”

    Holy fuck… she’s literally saying that your kids should starve because other kids are fat.

    groupofcrows ,

    She probably meant - colored kids can starve because white kids are too fat.

    PsychedSy ,

    It’s such a weird hill to die on, too. We pay, what, 15k/kid per year of education? 120 bucks is too much, though.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    They do this for so many things. The death penalty is far more expensive than life in prison, but they’d rather be cruel than save the money that they always say shouldn’t be spent.

    PsychedSy ,

    They just think the answer is to kill them faster to save money.

    Maggoty ,

    To be fair. It’s not like the appeals system works when SCOTUS denied one on the basis that we have to respect the jury, even after literally everyone involved in the trial said there was exculpatory evidence missing from the trial.

    So it doesn’t matter how bad the trial was anymore. Any death sentence must stand under their reasoning.

    Natanael ,

    “finality”

    HighElfMage ,

    SCOTUS, or at least Scalia, has also decided that innocence isn’t a compelling reason to be spared execution.

    We should never let these vermin get away with calling themselves “pro-life.”

    Facebones , in A Black woman in Ohio was charged after miscarrying in her bathroom. Experts warn of the dangerous precedent.

    “This is what’s going to happen if you repeal Roe”

    “nuh uh that’s insane you fucking extremist LiBrUlZ that’d never happen stop spreading fear”

    this is like the third case of this this month

    Terevos , in More US auto buyers are turning to hybrids as sales of electric vehicles slow
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    Sales have slowed because dealers are selling above MSRP still.

    brlemworld ,

    Sales have not slowed though. These articles are full of shit. “their year-over-year growth rate” has slowed, not sales. Sales numbers are still increasing. Just not increasing as wildly as they were in the past.

    FlyingSquid , in Judge says Rudy Giuliani must pay $148 million judgment immediately
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    It won’t happen, but I would enjoy watching him spend his last couple of years of life walking the streets of New York all day, pushing a shopping cart and talking to pigeons as if they were Trump.

    victron ,
    @victron@programming.dev avatar

    Lmao just outside four seasons landscaping

    FiniteLooper ,

    Whatever money he can scape together will just be spent on hair dye

    pdxfed ,

    Hair?

    DigitalTraveler42 ,

    Then he’ll run into a little boy lost in NY and save him from the revenge of the Wet Bandits that boy sent to prison.

    linearchaos ,
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    Don’t let the pigeon drive the bus.

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