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MicroWave OP , in Georgia charges Trump with illegally trying to overturn 2020 loss
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Prosecutors brought 11 counts against Trump and his associates, including forgery and racketeering, which is used to target members of organized crime groups.

Prosecutors charged 18 other people, including Mark Meadows, Trump’s former White House chief of staff, and lawyers Rudy Giuliani and John Eastman.

The case stems from a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call in which Trump urged Georgia’s top election official, Brad Raffensperger, to “find” enough votes to reverse his narrow loss in the state. Raffensperger declined to do so.

Anissem , in Georgia charges Trump with illegally trying to overturn 2020 loss
@Anissem@lemmy.ml avatar

Happy 4th Indictment Day for anyone else who celebrates!

justabigemptyhole ,
@justabigemptyhole@lemmy.world avatar

I bought the good beer tonight

jeffw ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

Pliny the obese fascist?

runjun , in Ron DeSantis Says He Has “Moved On” And Disney Should Drop Its Lawsuit Against Him

I’ll tell this to the next cop that pulls me over.

TubeTalkerX ,

That Stop sign is behind us, it’s time to move on…

theodewere , in Bankman-Fried heads to Brooklyn jail notorious for poor conditions
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Lawyers for Maxwell, who was convicted of recruiting and grooming teenage girls for abuse by the late financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, said raw sewage seeped into her MDC cell. Her attorneys compared the "reprehensible and utterly inappropriate" conditions there to Hannibal Lecter's incarceration...

he's gonna have some weird nights

doppelgangmember , in Georgia charges Trump with illegally trying to overturn 2020 loss

It’s a good day

Gonna stop with the news right there and let some joy/schadenfreude seep in now

FuglyDuck , in Ron DeSantis Says He Has “Moved On” And Disney Should Drop Its Lawsuit Against Him
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

“It was just a prank, bro! Like get over it.”

Gorram_Reavers ,

It’s worse than that. He’s essentially saying that he successfully silenced Disney and they should just get over it. Total fascist rhetoric but completely on brand for that worthless fuckstain

whiskeypickle , in Ron DeSantis Says He Has “Moved On” And Disney Should Drop Its Lawsuit Against Him
@whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml avatar

yeah, because Disney is totally known for just dropping lawsuits…

lmao

sebinspace ,

Disney is the most out-for-blood Florida Man

Donjuanme ,

Florida man vs Florida rodent.

Bungiefan_ak , in Newest "anti-woke" tantrum: Right-wingers don't think kids of different races can be friends

They can’t, or at least they shouldn’t. People need to hang out with their own tribe, it’s weird and gross when they don’t

Donnywholovedbowling ,

If this is sarcasm you might want to indicate that better. If it isn’t… Damn dude, touch grass and chill tf out

Bungiefan_ak ,

You think I’m joking? Just goes to show what being a leftist does to your brain. Are you going to also tell me that you think women have penises now too?

Donnywholovedbowling ,

Touch grass and chill out

Bungiefan_ak ,

Are leaves okay? I only have leaves where I live (very wooded area).

TransplantedSconie , in Fulton County Georgia Grand Jury returns 10 out of 10 charged indictments against Former President Donald Trump credit: @[email protected]

What crime hasn’t Donald Trump committed at this point?

Unfucking believable…hes like destilled crime and a pile of shit wrapped up in lies.

neoman4426 , (edited )

There are some bullshit laws making helping people illegal, like I think it's illegal to give food to a homeless person some places. Probably hasn't done that?

Alexstarfire ,

Probably hasn’t made moonshine. Though, maybe he did and that s why he’s like this. Hard to say.

grue ,

Speaking of things happening in Atlanta, Trump also hasn’t occupied the South River Forest in order to protest against Cop City, which is what one person recently got executed by the Georgia State Patrol for.

Madison420 ,

That’s a myth, donating food is a protected act so long as its done in good faith.

“Good Samaritan food donation protection act of 1996”

VerdantSporeSeasoning ,

Not a myth exactly. The good Samaritan is more about liability right? Well, some towns are designating only certain areas that people can give homeless food, in many senses punishing generosity to the poor.

Madison420 ,

Nah, it’s a myth. They just need to be challenged and they’ll be gone soon thereafter since donations are generally considered expression.

girlfreddy ,
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@Madison420 @VerdantSporeSeasoning

But it costs to hire the lawyer, pay to file and take time off work to appear. And none of those costs will be reimbursed.

Madison420 ,

That doesn’t change the fact that it’s legal and you’re simply going to court to prove it as such, plus you’ll be case law which is pretty neat.

girlfreddy ,
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@Madison420

Not everyone has the money to even get a lawyer.

Maybe start thinking about the whole population instead of just the ones who'd think it was "neat" to set precedent.

Madison420 , (edited )

The aclu would jump on it no issues, it’s a slam dunk civil rights issue that’s sorta their jams.

Ed: change didn’t come without challenge, if you’re too concerned about it not working to try it you’ll never actually know if it would work. Why give up before you start.

PseudoSpock ,
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Yet you filter his distilled crime through activated charcoal… and it still come out orange!

nickhammes ,

Given he’s spent enough of his life flaunting his wealth, I’m guessing he usually gets driven by a chauffeur, and doesn’t drive himself much. I’d totally believe he hadn’t broken any DUI laws, but I wouldn’t put it past him either.

KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX ,
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I thought I read that he doesn’t like alcohol and hates drinkers. Which is odd given some of the people he associates with.

ComradeKhoumrag ,
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He’s a more crack cocaine kind of guy

Madison420 ,

He hasn’t touched my butthole though I wish he had because apparently he’s just giving away money by not knowing when to shut the fuck up.

FlyingSquid ,
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He hasn’t smoked weed. You can tell.

girlfreddy , in Ron DeSantis Says He Has “Moved On” And Disney Should Drop Its Lawsuit Against Him
@girlfreddy@lemmy.world avatar

DuhSantis living up to this name.

I mean one has to be pretty dense to think Disney is gonna drop a lawsuit because the person doesn’t want to face the consequences of their actions.

As Forrest would say, stupid is as stupid does.

flossdaily , in Girl, 13, gives birth after she was raped and denied abortion in Mississippi

This is what Republicans want for all of us.

If Republicans win the next election, they will institute a national abortion ban without exceptions for rape or incest.

If you want to stop this, the only way to do so is to vote for Biden. I really hope people understand this.

Sightline ,

That’s not the only way of stopping them.

Sir_Kevin ,
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This is the way.

DessertStorms ,
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It's not even a way to stop them.
Biden has literally been president during this whole Roe v Wade overturning.
It's so exhausting to see libs walk this line so close to being actual progressives, but not, all for their precious capitalism.
You're never going to beat the system by playing within the rules it's set you, the house always wins.

Cleverdawny ,

Okay. Outline a reasonable action Biden could have taken to prevent the ruling.

McNasty ,

He could have pushed to have it codified.

He could have also pushed student loan forgiveness for all borrowers instead of the bullshit means testing that got it shut down.

Cleverdawny ,

Without 60 votes in the Senate, shit, without 50, it codification of abortion rights wasn’t happening. And he did push loan forgiveness, the Supreme Court shut that down.

McNasty ,

It got shut down because of the means testing he included. If he hadn’t excluded some borrowers it would have gone through.

Cleverdawny ,

Nope, it got shut down because the court ruled that it amounted to the executive appropriating money. Means testing is constitutional.

prole ,

It wasn’t the means testing that shut it down, if anything it wouldn’t have made it as far as it did without the means testing. As it is, people were already complaining that it was a giveaway to wealthy folks who don’t need it. Take away the income limit and it would have less than zero chance of succeeding.

The president has very little power over legislative decisions. Yes, he could have used the bully pulpit to advocate for abortion legislation, but it would have accomplished nothing.

sevenapples ,

Why can’t Biden do something to safeguard abortion in his current term?

If he can’t do something on his current term, why will he be able to do something on his next one?

RecursiveParadox ,
@RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world avatar

It would take an act of congress, and the D’s don’t have the votes. Shitty but true.

Cleverdawny ,

Don’t bother, he’s from Lemmygrad and just wants to blame the Democrats for everything

sevenapples ,

Dude, I’m not even from the US. My question is, in my opinion, an obvious one, at least to an outsider to the US political system. Why do you have to vote him again, when he’s in power now?

magnusrufus ,

Because presidents serve for a limited number of years.

sevenapples ,

Of which he had 4 in total to do something about abortions, so I fail to see how that’s an adequate answer

Matt_Shatt ,

It’s a classic case of maintaining the status quo. He may not be able to codify abortion protection but he can at least stop the R’s from doing it.

magnusrufus ,

Well that’s different than what you asked before but ok. The president doesn’t create new laws. That’s the job of the legislature. Currently the republicans hold more seats in the house and in the senate there’s 48 Dem, 49 Rep, and 3 Ind. So not likely to produce anything about abortion other than trying to ban it. It doesn’t look like anyone else is going to be a real contender to run in Biden’s place and anyone from the republican side would clearly be worse and would greenlight any anti-abortion bills that legislature would try to pass. So the obvious and adequate answer is that when Biden’s term is up we are going to have to vote for him again because there are no better options and the legislature is not in a state that will work to protect pro-choice rights but is in a state where it could try to limit those rights. Also, Biden was sworn in on Jan 20th 2021 so he hasn’t had 4 years yet.

derpo ,

His presidential subscription needs to be re-upped every Summer Olympics

DessertStorms ,
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rambaroo ,

Don’t bother, he’s from lemmy.world and just wants to blame the leftists for everything.

Cleverdawny ,

Whatever you say, fash

Eldritch ,

I probably agree with your stance on abortion over all. I also generally dislike ML Communists/Leninists for their cultish indoctrination and authoritarian tendencies. But you’ve been way off base with this reply and the previous one in this chain. And are only serving to make yourself look bad. Something that can and has happened to all of us sometimes. Step back, take a look around, and chill.

Cleverdawny ,

Dude, these fuckers called me a fascist because I’m a liberal. You want to tell someone to chill, tell them.

Eldritch ,

No one did. And even if they did that wasn’t the only thing I was talking about. There are valid criticisms about all ideologies especially liberalism. I may not agree with the extremism and hypocrisy that they attack it with. But sometimes your enemies or people you just don’t like do have a point. Separate yourself from the system and stop being offended for it.

You aren’t an ideology. You’re more complex and more flexible than that. Just like other people. Sometimes we all forget that though. You started out attacking the messenger. Not the message. Yeah I think lemmygrad is a toxic place, and wouldn’t associate with it. But, that had no real bearing on what the person said.

Cleverdawny , (edited )

kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/…/1636453

Four links calling me a fascist. And I’m happy to analyze criticisms made in good faith, using the words of the person I’m talking to. Link-dumping ideological screeds against liberals from smug leftists who sit on their asses and declare that I’m the same as a Republican when I’m pushing for progress and they’re just fantasizing about what would be possible if only everyone agreed with them? That, I am not open to.

Eldritch ,

What did I just finish saying. You are a person not an ideology. And if those articles really are written about you personally. Perhaps should do some introspection. No I believe you’re just engaging in hyperbole at the moment.

But tell me you don’t have the self-awareness to see the irony in someone basically doing to you what you did to the lemmygrad poster. Which again, I don’t like lemmygrad. But you’re critique of that poster was rather equally extreme and uncalled for.

It’s silly were even having this discussion at this point. Because I asure you for the topic this whole thread of posts is founded upon. You both probably agree far more than you disagree. And both your energies should be turned towards the people who made this a possibility. Not each other. Hell I’d say you both probably have a lot more in common than you think. It’s clear you’ve reduced them to the ideology of leninism. And you strongly identify yourself as a liberal. You are both adherence to largely failed ideologies. So you have that in common. I Kidd. But seriously. All of this is wasted drama and effort.

Cleverdawny ,

Yeah, look, man, I’m open to working with anyone in coalition, even if I disagree with them. That’s why I’m a liberal. People who call me a fascist for joining that kind of coalition, they aren’t open to working with me. I’ve interacted quite a lot with people like that. They don’t want collaboration, they want capitulation on every topic so they can dictate events. Except there’s five billion different ways that the various people in those communities want to dictate events, so there’s not even an avenue towards uniting people in a functional coalition.

Eldritch ,

As a socialist (social democrat/true libertarian) ish I don’t totally disagree with you. However the question seemed pretty innocuous and even sincere. You came in a bit hot. I’ve done it too. And probably will do it again at some point. But when we do that it just drives us apart and causes everyone else to behave extremely too.

Cleverdawny ,

I get what you’re saying. What I’m saying is that when someone has already decided that I’m the same as a Republican because I’m a social liberal, then there’s really not much of a point in anything beyond mocking them for being unrealistic and trying to play for the audience.

Eldritch ,

Do you deny that many democrats/liberals have over the years acquiesced and even assisted in bad Republican legislation? That’s not a controversial thing to point out. They have.

And look even you are giving qualifiers now. Calling yourself a socially liberal. Which is something very different from economic liberalism. Which is what generally people are talking about when they talk about liberals. If I had to Hazard a guess. I would say that you are honestly pro-social democracy more than you are a liberal. And in fact on many economic issues would actually be more on the left with the rest of the Socialist then you would most economic right wing liberals. Just something to consider.

Anyhow I’ve said my piece. And it seems the actual extremist and downvote Squad have showed up. We had a pretty reasonable conversation but getting downvoted I don’t see the point and continuing it anymore have a good day.

Cleverdawny ,
rambaroo ,

No one in this thread called you a fascist you little baby. Someone from a different country asked you an honest question and you turned it into a self-pity party for no reason.

derpo ,

Acktually… I think it’s lemm.ee

flossdaily ,

Biden doesn’t have the authority to safeguard abortion. He had the authority to veto Congress. Biden would veto a nationwide abortion ban. Trump or any other Republican would not.

Additionally, presidents appoint supreme Court justices in the event of a vacancy, or if Congress ever gets on board for expanding the court… do we’d need a Democrat in office if we’re ever going to reverse Dobbs.

sevenapples ,

Can’t he do it temporarily via executive order?

flossdaily ,

No. It isn’t in the scope of executive powers.

If there was a national law protecting the right to abortion, he could use executive orders to enforce that. But that isn’t the world we live in anymore.

Cleverdawny ,

What it’s going to take is to vote in Biden, then whoever the Democrats run in 2028, 2032, 2036. Until enough of the Republican justices die in office that actual jurists can replace them.

Cyberwitch_7493 ,
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Voting is good, yes.

So is protesting. We must use all the tools at our disposal, provided they are used to protect and support the most marginalized of our communities.

BackOnMyBS , in Ron DeSantis Says He Has “Moved On” And Disney Should Drop Its Lawsuit Against Him
@BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world avatar

omg lmaooo what a moron! i guess he’s used to intimidating enemy prisoners of war in gitmo that can’t fight back. now, that he personally went out of his way to start problems with some that can fight back, he wants to back out. dont start no shit, wont be no shit.

OkToBeTakei ,

like all bullies, he’s a coward

Aesthesiaphilia ,

Don't mess with the Mouse

The Mouse always wins

FormerlyChucks , in Fulton County Georgia Grand Jury returns 10 out of 10 charged indictments against Former President Donald Trump credit: @[email protected]

Next to be indicted: a ham sandwich

neptune ,

Oh that’s funny, because what that guy said that one time? If you could find a ham sandwich that led criminal conspiracies in multiple states for multiple un-American ends I would hope you’d indict it too.

FormerlyChucks ,

It’s a sandwich

NoIWontPickaName , in Three women injured in otter attack in Montana

Alright, Florida Man, you're up.

Call, Raise, or Fold?

Draegur , in Ron DeSantis Says He Has “Moved On” And Disney Should Drop Its Lawsuit Against Him

SO if someone hypothetically shot DeSantis in the back, it’ll be fine and there will be no consequences once they’ve ‘moved on’

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