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MentallyExhausted , (edited ) in Mars water: Liquid water reservoirs found under Martian crust

Everyone talking about extraction seems to be missing one important thing: liquid water invites the possibility of life.

Spitzspot , in SpaceX repeatedly polluted waters in Texas this year, regulators found
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Can we revoke his government contracts now?

MegaUltraChicken ,

SpaceX needs to be property of the US government. He shouldn’t be allowed to control it whatsoever.

worldwidewave ,

Nationalize SpaceX!

dev_null ,

Sure, but not for this reason. CNBC goofed and made this article based on a typo. The regulators didn’t find any such thing.

icerunner_origin , in RFK Jr disqualified from New York ballot, judge rules
Carrick1973 , in ‘A different level than 2020’: Trump’s plan to steal election is taking shape

This is what happens when you don’t hold criminals accountable for their actions. If we’d actually been tough on these assholes, then we wouldn’t be in this predicament. What are we going to do when all these states say that Trump won? If the past is any indication, the Democrats will cave and let Trump take office, or will bring their case to the SC who have shown that they don’t give a shit about democracy and will install a Republican regardless of the election outcome.

We should have tried those responsible for January 6 and held them accountable, including long prison sentences. I’m looking at you, Trump, Gohmert, MTG, and anyone else who actively tried to overthrow our government or gave in-depth, secret tours to groups that tried to.

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some_guy , in Historic Gun Suit Survives Serious Legal Threat Engineered by Indiana Republicans

At least the judge was sane.

NaibofTabr , in Mars water: Liquid water reservoirs found under Martian crust

10 to 20km? That is probably unreachable, at least for a long time.

The deepest hole drilled on Earth is the Kola Superdeep Borehole which reached 12.2km, requiring almost 20 years of operation and tons of heavy equipment.

kevlar21 ,

They did also say in the article that the rover could only measure straight down from its position, so maybe not all of the water is so deep.

NaibofTabr ,

Hmm, that’s a good point. If we found one aquifer there might well be others, and they could be at any depth.

Of course the problem is, we’ll need to place this kind of seismic sensor around the whole planet…

kevlar21 ,

I’m no astroseismologist but I feel like I’ve heard of sensors like this being on satellites like to investigate glaciers etc. though maybe 10km of rock isn’t so easily penetrated.

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  • frezik ,

    Right, and that’s part of the problem with drilling. Rock does weird things at those temperatures.

    Mars has less geological activity than Earth–which is like saying Xenon is less reactive than Sodium–but I imagine it does still get hot down there. Earth gets a lot of its internal heat from the decay of heavy radioactive elements, and I imagine Mars has some of the same.

    Wait, it’s liquid water. There’s a lot of pressure, though, which would raise the boiling point, but it can’t be that hot, right?

    Kbobabob ,

    I just want to say thank you for actually having someone to say other than some stupid joke to try to get fake Internet points.

    snekerpimp , in ‘A different level than 2020’: Trump’s plan to steal election is taking shape

    There are now officially two Americas: the one grounded in actual, factual reality, and one so deluded by propaganda and hate that reality is no longer in their grasp. How do you counter act this? How do you stop Don Quixote from fighting the evil windmills?

    vegeta ,

    How do you stop Don Quixote from fighting the evil windmills?

    What, are you pro cancer?

    snekerpimp ,

    Lmao did not mean to make that correlation

    Varyk ,

    investing more in education sure wouldnt hurt, getting money OUT of politics, basically all the things a social compact is for.

    congress has to legislate responsibly or bear responsibility for flushing the states dowm the shitter.

    Get term limits going.

    Illegalize gerrymandering.

    Vote Harris.

    there are lots of things to do, and the best thing for the average American to do is vote and donate time if they have it.

    or you could become an activist lawyer. or movement lawyer.

    there are lots of important things to do, but Congress bears the responsibility to get most of this done and has chosen not to for decades becuase It’s way easier to profit off their positions of privilege.

    there’s lots of things to do.

    do what you can.

    AA5B ,

    But education funding is mostly local - many states wouldn’t even accept free money to feed kids with no strings attached

    Gerrymandering is probably a judicial issue.

    Varyk ,

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    AA5B ,

    I have no idea whether you are agreeing, disagreeing, or insulting me

    Varyk ,

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    Routhinator ,
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    Two very important steps to start with:

    1. Corporations are not people. They should not be able to lobby, donate funds, or be a scapegoat for their executives in a lawsuit.
    2. Restore truth in print laws, which were removed thanks to corporations being considered as people and allowed advertisers to lobby this legislation be removed under the guise of it hurting their buisness.

    Then you’ve got a chance of stopping this shit. But these two legislative changes can be attributed to as the first to steps on the horrible path our democracies have taken to their ultimate enshitification where they have taken the power from the people and put it in the hands of the wealthy.

    the_fuzz ,

    I find it funny that all the replies to this comment are things like, “get money out of politics” or “increase spending on education.” In other words, things that require legislative action.

    So all we need to fix our broken system is for that broken system to work correctly. Got it.

    MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in UAW files charges against Trump, Musk for trying to intimidate workers

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    FlyingSquid , in RFK Jr disqualified from New York ballot, judge rules
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    pjwestin , in Biden dropped out because “the most important thing” is “we must defeat Trump”: CBS News
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    I’d be a little less skeptical of that claim if he hadn’t said that he’d be OK losing to Trump, “as long as I gave it my all.” I appreciate him stepping aside for the good of the country, but it took nearly a month of pressure from Democrats to get him to drop out, and I’m sure if the party leadership hadn’t turned in him, he’d be happy to take his chances against Trump.

    kandoh ,

    It’s still basically a 50/50 toss up. If Harris loses then we will all be wondering what may have happened if they stuck with Biden

    pjwestin ,
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    It’s a 50/50 toss up after only 2 weeks of campaigning. Unless she does something to kill her own momentum, she’s in very good shape. Also, it’s pretty clear what would have happened if they stuck with Biden; Maine and New York were becoming competitive, there’s just no universe where he would have won.

    kandoh ,

    Biden was at a 50/50 before he resigned. He was behind in the polls but they were all always within the margin of error.

    pjwestin ,
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    Yeah, but he was on the downswing, while Harris is on the upswing. It just was not going to get better for him. Also, I can’t remember for sure, but I think he was significantly down on the most important swing states, and only polling about even nationally.

    ayyy ,

    You might have time to wonder if that happens, but I’ll end up in the ovens pretty quick. Fuck racism and fascism.

    Beetschnapps ,

    The bigger issue are voters clinging to the same shit as you.

    His “giving his all” was too icky !

    So apparently people couldn’t get past a great administration and hence we have a trump horse race.

    pjwestin ,
    @pjwestin@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean, we have a Trump horse race now vs. a Trump blow out before. You may think his administration was great. Personally, I was surprised by how strong on labor he was, but disgusted by his handling of Gaza, and I think his blind institutionalism has made him too slow to react to an out of control Supreme Court. But those opinions don’t matter; he was not going to win after that debate. He came across as senile and confused, and he was not going to energize the base he needed to win. No matter what you think of his administration, he lost the election on June 27th, and we’re just lucky someone made him see that before it was too late.

    teamevil ,

    He did drop out at the perfect time though, that could have been strategic

    pjwestin ,
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    To he honest, I think that if he had dropped out earlier it would have been better. He created a lot of panic within the base that didn’t need to be there. I suppose it’s not impossible that it was some kind of strategy to make Harris’ ascension more welcome and inevitable, but I think that’s giving him way too much credit.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Disagree entirely. This has left the Trump campaign totally twisting in the wind. They have no idea how to compete with a mixed-race independent and smart woman with her kindly dad running mate because they were hoping for Biden.

    The attacks I’ve seen so far:

    1. Harris laughs too much.
    2. Harris hugs people.
    3. Harris is a woman.
    4. Harris turned black all of the sudden.
    5. Harris is black.
    6. Walz… uh… something about tampons.
    pjwestin , (edited )
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    I mean, I don’t disagree that the switch has left Trump flailing, I just think that still happens if Biden drops out two weeks earlier than he did. It was clear by then that he had no chance of winning, and it would have saved voters a lot of fear and despair. You could argue that doing it after the RNC made the whole convention pointless, but given how poorly he’s done in a post Biden race, it’s just as likely that the entire thing would become an even more public meltdown.

    Either way, I think the idea that this was a strategy is a fantasy. I think his actions and reporting at the time made it clear that he was planning to run, and it was only pressure from top Democrats that made him step down.

    ayyy ,

    I guess it was 4d chess? Do you know who you sound like?

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    No I don’t. Do tell me who I sound like.

    aleph , (edited )
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    Less than two weeks before he dropped out, he wrote an open letter to congressional democrats in which he wrote:

    I want you to know that despite all the speculation in the press and elsewhere, I am firmly committed to staying in this race, to running this race to the end, and to beating Donald Trump.

    I have heard the concerns that people have — their good faith fears and worries about what is at stake in this election. I am not blind to them.

    I can respond to all this by saying clearly and unequivocally: I wouldn’t be running again if I did not absolutely believe I was the best person to beat Donald Trump in 2024.

    The voters of the Democratic Party have voted. They have chosen me to be the nominee of the party. Do we now just say this process didn’t matter? That the voters don’t have a say?

    I decline to do that… I have no doubt that I — and we — can and will beat Donald Trump.

    Unless this was all part of an elaborate hoax, it’s clear he had no intention of dropping out at that time.

    ngwoo ,

    Nothing but respect for anyone that old who can change their mind when they’re wrong. It’s easy to fall into a rut of stubbornness.

    textik ,

    I don’t think it was a hoax, but campaign 101 is to be absolutely confident in your candidacy until the nanosecond you drop out. If you telegraph weakness to the voting public, and then end up staying in the race, that will be a millstone around your neck. Even if he was wavering in the weeks leading up to his dropout, there would be zero upside to communicating that publicly.

    aleph ,
    @aleph@lemm.ee avatar

    It’s possible, but I personally don’t buy that argument. He didn’t have to sit down and write that letter, but he did. That, plus the interview where he said that “giving it his all” was “what it was all about”, seemed obvious to me he was all for holding on tight despite everyone’s concerns.

    Furbag ,

    I give him a pass for that statement. Biden was running on the platform of election trust and legitimacy. How else does he answer the question? “No, and I’ll fight tooth and nail to dispute the results if Trump wins?”. Maybe the democratic base would have loved to hear that, but it’s mixed messaging that would have been used as ammunition against him. He’s the President of the United States. He has to project confidence in the system, which means trying hard to win, but stopping right on the dot at “doing your best” and accepting the will of the people, even if it’s a distasteful outcome for everyone involved.

    pjwestin ,
    @pjwestin@lemmy.world avatar

    Honestly, I still think that’s a pretty terrible answer when your entire campaign messaging has been, “Democracy will end if you elect this man.” I think if he had said something like, “I understand the stakes of this election, I would feel horrible if I lost and let the American people down, but it less than 5 months to the election and I am the best positioned candidate to defeat him,” that would have been a much more reasonable answer. It would have been wrong (clearly), but at least it wouldn’t have sounded like he was losing a little league game.

    Furbag ,

    Oh yeah, I hated the answer he gave too, but it was pretty clear he wasn’t expecting the question either. It was a bad answer and a mistake, but definitely one of the less egregious mistakes his campaign had been making in the weeks leading up to his departure from the campaign trail. At it’s core, being satisfied with doing your best is a sentiment most people can agree with, but one that falls short of what we actually needed. It did not resonate with the people who were upset with him at the time. We needed Biden to be ruthless after his debate disaster, but he was still playing softball at the major leagues.

    pjwestin ,
    @pjwestin@lemmy.world avatar

    Fair enough. It certainly wasn’t the worst gaffe from that period.

    blackluster117 , in Mom fights back in grizzly bear attack: ‘I’m not ready to leave my daughter’
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    Talk about an Iron Lady.

    girlfreddy , in WA health department sues over denied entry to Tacoma ICE facility
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    In a legal challenge filed July 30 against the private contractor

    The privatized shell game.

    Buddahriffic ,

    Private companies shouldn’t be running detention centres.

    Sineljora ,

    People should stop investing in private prisons too. Most people are through the bank they use or the contents of the funds their 401k chooses for them.

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    HootinNHollerin , in Mars water: Liquid water reservoirs found under Martian crust

    No one tell Nestle

    cybermass ,

    This is how we foot the bill to settle mars. Nestle.

    If it’s stripping a far away land of its natural resources, it’s gotta be Nestle.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    monkeys paw curls

    Nestle begins their plan to genocide the subterranean civilization of Mars

    Noodle07 ,

    They almost won the war against the earth subterranean civilization already but nobody cares about it

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