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aesthelete , (edited )

I think something that is missing in the minds of the “but you could just…” posters here is that the mindset of the OP doesn’t always come from laziness, immaturity, or the inability to understand how to pack a sandwich, it sometimes comes from crippling or barely functional depression.

I work from home and the thought of even making a sandwich most days in the middle of the day is just too much. I don’t want to make a sandwich; I want to go back to bed for eight to ten years and I agree that lunch is the fucking worst.

(But so is breakfast, and dinner, and all of the meetings, and work, and life generally speaking, etc.)

MellowYellow13 ,

Then you are just burnout, this ain’t complicated. If you need to rest, fucking rest.

ComicalMayhem ,

Oh wow! My crippling depression is cured! Why didn’t I think of this before? Thank you so much!

MellowYellow13 ,

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  • RecluseRamble ,

    it sometimes comes from crippling or barely functional depression.

    For sure but here on Lemmy it seems to be the case in like 80% of posts. If that many people were actually depressed across the whole population, civilization would long have collapsed.

    aesthelete ,

    So you’re saying a niche platform with a lot of tech guys who are actively facing layoffs daily nowadays isn’t representative of society overall? I’m super surprised.

    But relatedly depression levels have risen across society over the years, it’s gonna impact the posting.

    socsa ,

    This is precisely why always working from home is unhealthy and the context switch would be worth the psychological boost it provides if not for the commute. I know people really liked the liberation of WFH at first but I just don't think it is going to be sustainable. It has nothing to do with productivity, but it's the next simmering mental health crisis.

    aesthelete ,

    I like how the “why don’t you just” people have now moved on to armchair psychology.

    Redruth ,

    Yes georgia, it ends when you marry mr successful and he pays for everything.

    driving_crooner ,
    @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

    In Brazil, if you work more that 6hs a day, the company have to give you lunch. The majority of them, give you a pre paid debit card that can be used in restaurants. This mean that they are a lot of money there that can be used in restaurants, so any office building have lots of restaurants around.

    From my union contract, I get 40R daily to lunch, and the restaurant I go they serve “prato feito” (beans, rice, salad, meat) for 25, and use the rest for some icecream or to eat something with my wife at weekends.

    cows_are_underrated ,

    That’s actually a very cool concept.

    driving_crooner , (edited )
    @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

    It’s works close with transit costs too, the employee can opt in to pay up to 6% of its salary, then what is miss to cover all the transit costs is paid 50/50 by the employer and the government. For example, if I need to take a bus (5R) and a metro (5R), that sum to 20R daily in transit costs, 20R × 22 working days = 440 at month. Suppose a salary of 2000 * 6% = 120. The employee pay 120, the employer 160 and the government other 160. I’m fortunate to be in a position where I don’t need that benefit anymore because I live in bike distance to the office, but it saved my ass when I had to take a bus to the metro station, a metro and then another bus every day.

    cows_are_underrated ,

    Damn, didnt knew that brasil had such bonuses. I don’t know how good your public transport is, but having this option is great.

    johannesvanderwhales ,

    Most of my lunches are leftovers, but many of them are things like a burger or a bratwurst that I can cook with little effort. Or I can buy something.

    Imagine complaining about £4 for lunch, I’m lucky if I get out for under $20.

    NaoPb ,

    I interpreted it as a 4 pound tv dinner. But maybe I’m reading it wrong.

    [Edit] Now I am doubting what even a meal deal is

    machineLearner ,

    british people are poor

    LoveSausage ,
    @LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Diet shakes :)

    MystikIncarnate ,

    I’ve seriously considered buying MREs because I can’t be bothered to meal prep.

    occhionaut ,

    Dont forget to put it on a tray.

    MystikIncarnate ,

    I’m not a monster.

    occhionaut ,

    Nice. Mmk…

    ebc ,

    It’s still basically canned food, it’s just that the can is a pouch. It’s more expensive too.

    MystikIncarnate ,

    Most MREs that I’ve looked at are a bit more elaborate than your average canned product.

    But the idea is the same, yes. It’s more interesting than your typical canned meal, and it’s more expensive, but the quality of the food, if you can call it that, is not dissimilar.

    MREs usually are a more “complete” meal with a variety of components, while canned meals are just a volume of a single component.

    For me it’s mainly that it adds variety.

    And sure, there’s MREs that are like, stew, or soup, that you would probably be better off just grabbing a can of ready to eat Campbell’s or something… But there’s way interesting options than that too.

    I once saw a “taco” MRE. It was little more than some “beef” (that you had to heat up) and “cheese” and some other fairly sad toppings on a small tortilla… But I would still take that over a can of chunky beef soup any day.

    The nice thing is that MREs are shelf stable for a really long time, so you can get a box of them and shove them in your trunk, or into a desk drawer and then you don’t have to worry about lunch for a month. Longer if you occasionally go out for lunch with coworkers to local food places near your workplace.

    Presently, I don’t work in an office (my job is 100% work from home), so I don’t really need it. I can get the same variety from a frozen meal, which is arguably easier, and it’s definitely cheaper than MREs.

    I also have considered buying a few boxes as emergency food and throwing them in the trunk of my car. I live in Canada, and getting stranded in a blizzard isn’t impossible. I have access to my trunk from the cabin of my car, so I shouldn’t need to get out to get them and I could stay nourished while waiting for rescue. MREs are supposed to be paired with heating/cooking packs, which would help the car warm up when I’m having one, and with a decently sized container of drinking water, I could wait weeks for rescue, as long as I have adequate protection from the elements (jackets, blankets, etc), and some way to dispose of my bodily waste without contaminating my “living” area. I almost always travel with a radio (I’m a certified amateur operator, aka, ham radio), and a battery bank for my cellphone.

    For a couple hundred dollars (maybe? Maybe more? IDK what the prices are for MREs right now), myself and a passenger could survive for a while being stranded in the white wasteland of Canada, without really having to do anything… Just waiting for rescue.

    With global warming, last year we barely got snow where I am, and I don’t travel much, so the whole thing is on the back burner at best. The idea was to have it, and if I don’t need it, a few months before everything expires, the MREs become my lunch, and I buy a fresh box for my vehicle.

    ebc ,

    Yeah, there’s some stuff on the side, but get a can of chef boyardee, a sealed packet of crackers and a pop tart, and that’s pretty much it. Add some Qwik and Gatorade powder for hydration, maybe. At 250$ per 12-pack it’s more expensive than eating out.

    I’m involved with the Canadian cadet program, and these are the exact ones we eat when we go on expédition, they’re nothing fancy. They are convenient, though.

    MystikIncarnate ,

    $20 CAD each (ish) and they come with the heater?

    That’s actually pretty good for pricing. The ration heaters are not cheap.

    Lizardking27 ,

    Shit take.

    Theme ,

    If you’re not eating a croque monsieur for lunch, that’s your fault, and you deserve to be miserable

    jose1324 ,

    Mmm calories

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Just eat a small one

    shatterling ,

    Croque garcon?

    andros_rex ,

    It’s frustrating as an adult with ARFID/eating disorders. I can’t bring myself to eat leftovers because I worry that they are contaminated. I’ve thrown away so much food because I won’t reuse a pasta sauce jar if it has been opened.

    A lot of the common “easy” meals are things that I absolutely will not eat - spaghetti, canned veggies, ground beef. Sometimes I struggle with eating ramen. It’s fucking embarrassing but I literally cannot help it. I will gag and puke if my brain decides I can’t eat something.

    cows_are_underrated ,

    Sounds absolutely horrible. I usually have to tame myself, to not eat all leftovers in the evening so I have some for tomorrow.

    Cort ,

    Have you considered taking a serve safe restaurant hygiene class. I used to be similarly worried about food, but after learning about the safe handling and storage rules and temperature danger zones, I’m much less worried about left overs.

    andros_rex ,

    I got the manager certification a long time ago, and it oddly made it worse. Weird things like being convinced that my refrigerator isn’t consistently keeping temperature or that the plastic in the packaging has holes in it. Texture sets me off and there’s a lot of variation I’m sensitive to.

    I can’t get a family sized bag of chips or cereal for example, because I can only eat them the same day I opened the package. I know that there is nothing wrong with them, but the thought of a stale one upsets me. I love apples, but rarely eat them because I don’t want to risk a mushy one. I know a mushy apple or stale chips aren’t “contaminated” but they feel intensely like they are.

    RecluseRamble ,

    I’d say you have to learn to trust your nose (it really is that simple) but you seem to have a condition worth to see a therapist over.

    andros_rex ,

    Yeah - the condition I have is ARFID. I do see a therapist, but they can’t really “cure” texture aversion. I’ve found adaptations that fit my lifestyle.

    I just wanted to share because there are a lot of stigmas around disordered eating - there’s an assumption that “picky” eating is a lack of willpower or a character flaw. Food is such a basic need that our brains can be very strongly wired in incorrect ways.

    marx2k ,

    This thread just oozes of early adults that don’t understand how to spend 30 minutes preparing meals

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

    If you are in an office environment, where do you prep?

    INHALE_VEGETABLES ,

    If you can’t make a sandwich and take it to work with a muslie bar I dunno what to say other than good luck kid.

    One guy at works makes a toasted ham and cheese in the toaster. I shit you not, he just flattens it and crams it in one side for a bit.

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

    Make a sandwich = buy a sandwich.

    RogueSensei ,
    @RogueSensei@lemmy.world avatar

    Because “make” = “buy”

    ¯*(ツ)*/¯

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

    Because eat a sandwich = eat a sandwich.

    Nothing against an occasional sandwich, but the “meal deal” referred to above is basically just sandwiches.

    randomdeadguy ,
    @randomdeadguy@lemmy.world avatar

    Make a sandwich = $5

    Purchase sandwich = GDP of Haiti

    cows_are_underrated ,

    19.5b USD is a quite expensive Sandwich.

    RecluseRamble ,

    It’s pretty good though.

    eleitl ,

    You bring it from home. Or find a home office job.

    marx2k ,

    At home before or after work.

    UnderpantsWeevil ,
    @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

    Or possibly people living in milquetoast office park suburbs where the restaurant options are dogshit.

    No shortage of good lunch foods in downtown Houston.

    marx2k ,

    But even then my statement holds true

    RecluseRamble ,

    Eating out isn’t exactly cheap though. Hardly sustainable for most people doing that every lunch.

    redisdead ,

    There’s nothing at my workplace other than a shitty microwave oven and we’re not allowed to leave the factory for lunch or dinner.

    I still manage to eat decent meals because I’m not a lazy bum.

    Emerald ,

    Honestly they should just make nutrition bricks. Just combining nutrients into a brick. It could even be modular so you can add/remove various nutrients based on your nutritional needs. The perfect life would be working for the nutrition brick manufacturer and then going home to eat some nice nutrition bricks.

    TubularTittyFrog ,

    They do. They taste like shit.

    they also make shakes that do this. also taste like shit.

    Chee_Koala ,

    Foamed up shit, but yeah… still shit.

    leopold ,

    Why do you believe a “nutrition brick” would be at all more appetizing than the things described in OP?

    Emerald ,

    Doesn’t need to be appetizing, just not downright nasty. Of course, a pill would be the desired form factor, but you couldn’t fit that much in a pill

    JasonDJ ,

    Just go to prison and have a nutriloaf ffs.

    andros_rex ,

    That’s what cliff bars/energy bars/protein shakes are.

    redisdead ,

    The nutrition brick manufacturer would absolutely not allow you to take nutrition bricks home. You’d have to buy them like everyone else

    zalgotext ,

    There’s a variety of lunches that are cheap and insanely easy though:

    • Stir fry with leftover rice, an egg, and some frozen veggies
    • Sandwich with a piece of fruit or some veggies
    • Leftover soup heated up on the stove (or in the microwave if ya nasty)
    • Cold pasta dishes like pasta salad with leftover protein thrown on top
    • Charcuterie plate with cold cuts, crackers, cheeses, and jams
    • Salad with cold leftover proteins
    • Leftover fried chicken straight out the fridge, as God intended

    Like sure, some of these things rely on having leftovers laying around to dress up a bit, but I think that’s a reasonable thing to expect of most people.

    absGeekNZ ,
    @absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz avatar

    There is another option.

    Just going to put this out there, cook too much the previous night, don’t eat all the dinner you cooked. Place the remainder into some form of container; transport said container to work with you the next day.

    Lunch is sorted when you make your dinner!

    madcaesar ,

    That’s crazy talk.

    shasta ,

    The same meal again? Crazy talk

    Chee_Koala ,

    Didn’t know psychopaths were just showing themselves like this on Lemmy, wtf

    fmstrat ,

    As a non-UKer, meal deals are amazing.

    hesusingthespiritbomb ,

    Look I’m not saying that cooking your own lunch is a prerequisite for being an adult. However complaining about the quality of prepared food while not acknowledging you could just cook is sure as hell immature.

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